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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Just wanted to share a LOL moment on post-election day. I was clicking around and this ad came up:
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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If the X6 and ZDX can be 5 dooor coupes, so can the MAtrix, the Mazda 3, FX, EX, Hummers and everything else
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Its "coupe like"

which is the same as people selling knockoff stuff on ebay saying its "XXX style"
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Whatever they call it in the marketing campaign, it is a tremendous vehicle.

When GM was tomohawking Pontiac this summer, I got one of our kids a fairly loaded 09 Vibe AWD version of this car for $18K.

The car is roomy, comfortable, has a flexible layout and does many things well.

Now that the Pontiac version is gone, Toyota has more pricing power (i.e. less discounting) as they continue to market the car.

Very few of these small 5 doors have the AWD option, with the Mitsu lancer 5 door being the most recent to hit the market.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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It's the usual marketing. More coupe-like cars are coming out, so now it can be a coupe.

Look at the various names being given to cars to avoid calling them wagons.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
If the X6 and ZDX can be 5 dooor coupes, so can the MAtrix, the Mazda 3, FX, EX, Hummers and everything else
haha That's funny the sports wagon has evolved into the 5 door coupe... Soon there will be a new segment, the SUC (Sport Utility Coupe); hopefully though, it won't suck.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Is X6 a coupe style SUV or SUV style coupe?
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"Coupe-like" without the word "wagon" might be a plus in the US market.
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Any hatchback = coupe-like.

Sorta...
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Any hatchback = coupe-like.

Sorta...
haha exactly.
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Originally Posted by S2000toIS350
Whatever they call it in the marketing campaign, it is a tremendous vehicle.

When GM was tomohawking Pontiac this summer, I got one of our kids a fairly loaded 09 Vibe AWD version of this car for $18K.

The car is roomy, comfortable, has a flexible layout and does many things well.

Now that the Pontiac version is gone, Toyota has more pricing power (i.e. less discounting) as they continue to market the car.

Very few of these small 5 doors have the AWD option, with the Mitsu lancer 5 door being the most recent to hit the market.
I am glad you guys like the Vibe! I wish that Toyota had given the Matrix II a little more time in the oven before pulling it out because coming from Toyota, a hot hatch like this could have a lot of potential. Styling that requires a trained eye to see the difference over the old model, 4ATs, and iffy engines really don't do this thing much justice.

I would have liked for them to bump the base engine up to 145hp or so and offer a 6AT. The 2.4L needs to desperately be updated to the 2.5L unit now in the Camry SE, also with the 6AT. Fresh sheetmetal front and rear would be nice too. Same goes for the Corolla.

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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Any hatchback = coupe-like.

Sorta...
kinda / sorta, until you make it ugly like Panamera thing.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
I am glad you guys like the Vibe! I wish that Toyota had given the Matrix II a little more time in the oven before pulling it out because coming from Toyota, a hot hatch like this could have a lot of potential. Styling that requires a trained eye to see the difference over the old model, 4ATs, and iffy engines really don't do this thing much justice.

I would have liked for them to bump the base engine up to 145hp or so and offer a 6AT. The 2.4L needs to desperately be updated to the 2.5L unit now in the Camry SE, also with the 6AT. Fresh sheetmetal front and rear would be nice too. Same goes for the Corolla.
at the end, it is econobox, reglardless of what the top version price is.... 6AT and 2.5l dual vvti engine would raise the price of the car.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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^4AT and 130hp isnt competitive in 2010, and 5AT 158hp is adequate but THAT model is expensive.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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its no more stupid that mercedes cls 4 door coupe.
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