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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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The issue occured when I pushed
the pedal quickly all the way to the floor.

I believe the problem is the distance
between the bottom of the pedal and
the carpet when the pedal is pushed all the way
down.

When the mat slides forward enough
the pedal can be pinned in place.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by S2000toIS350
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The issue occured when I pushed
the pedal quickly all the way to the floor.

I believe the problem is the distance
between the bottom of the pedal and
the carpet when the pedal is pushed all the way
down.

When the mat slides forward enough
the pedal can be pinned in place.
Thanks for the description. Does this happen only to those using a all-weather mat on top of conventional carpet mat (2 mats)?
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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I bet that 3 seconds while holding the button would feel like 3 minutes in a panic situation like that.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Wow, how incredibly sad. I have never heard of anything like this. It makes me grateful my dealer only has the carpeted floor mats in their loaner cars. I'll put up with the dirty carpet.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Thanks for the description. Does this happen only to those using a all-weather mat on top of conventional carpet mat (2 mats)?
It sounds like it hasn't been determined yet in this accident, but that seemed to be the issue in the original recall of the drivers side all-weather mat in the ES350.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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In my car it was just with one mat, the all weather one.

I had a closer look at the all weather mat.

It has a rounded lip at the front edge.
It is then thin for about a quarter of an inch or so and then gets very thick.
I think having the thick area being under the pedal (when full depressed) results in the pedal getting stuck.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Thanks for the description. Does this happen only to those using a all-weather mat on top of conventional carpet mat (2 mats)?
Using double-level mats is considered a no-no, for several reasons.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Using double-level mats is considered a no-no, for several reasons.
No kidding, I never understood why anybody would do that in the first place.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
No kidding, I never understood why anybody would do that in the first place.
So they can keep their original mats clean and the original mats keeps the carpet clean. How many layers do you need
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
So they can keep their original mats clean and the original mats keeps the carpet clean. How many layers do you need
One, obviously.

It's very simple. Don't use them both at once. Just do what I do. If the factory ones are fabric/carpeted ones or have custom factory logos on them, take them out and store them in a nice, dark dry place where they won't mildew or fade from the sun, and put in an inexpensive set of rubber or vinyl all-weather ones that are easier to clean (you can get them for as low as $20 at a place like Pep Boys, Advance Auto Parts, etc...). Then, if the rubber ones wear out, they can be replaced cheaply while the good, new, custom-made ones stay like new. When you are ready to sell or trade the car, simply put the original fabric ones back in.......they will be like new and (may?) add to the car's value.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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I actually didn't know about the three second hold to cut off the engine.
Its shocking to think that my family has taken loaners from this same dealer (Bob Baker Lexus)
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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i watched this video and im going man that sucks they died but if i knwo im going this fast and my accelerator is stuck im gonna do one of 2 things.
turn the car off......and try and stay outta peoples way or put it in neutral and let it rev till it blows the motor up or i slow down.
i mean i would hate to blow up my motor but i also would hate to die.... just my $0.02
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