it's really hard to say, all cars are different. but i believe for 09, they arrived at dealerships around sept time frame last year. i'd imagine about the same time line this year too.

 

Man... prices must have really gone up. I have an 07 335i with all of the options that car has (well some of them were standard, but still) except comfort access, plus I have several other options like the 13-speaker HK stereo (was standard on my car), sport package, backup sensors, cold weather package (headlight washers, ski pass through, heated seats). My xenon lights swivel with the steering too... I can't remember if that was an option or not. Anyhow... sticker was 47,xxx which seems like a bargain for only 5 grand more for everything it came with extra (especially that extra hundred or so horsepower)

The best value presented for most BMW models is the base model with no options added. Get a base 335i or base 328i but just be happy without the options because they're overpriced.

With both cars going for 42k I say it's a no brainer to go with the IS350. Far quicker, nicer interior, better reliability, etc. The only point I'd consider the 328i vs the IS350 in that configuration is if you're talking about leasing because despite the similar sticker prices you'll find BMW has excellent lease rates and Lexus is average at best if not worse than average compared to other lux car companies. Plus at that point who cares about reliability anyway.

 

I'll provide my perspective, being that I picked up a 328i.

I like both the 3 series and the IS. The IS has a much nicer interior and the power of the IS350 does make it a pleasure to drive but I much prefer the ride and handling of the 328i. The 328i also has a much more usable back seat. For me, the IS back seat just wasn't doable. I also got a killer deal on a 1 yr old, only 12k on the odo, CPO 328i. It cost me probably $9k less than buying a new 328i with the exact same specs, and about $4-6k less than buying a 1 year old CPO IS350.

If cost were equal, and the IS had a slightly larger back seat, I would take the IS350 over a 328i.

 

IS350 no contest

 

yea i'll second the G37 suggestion if he wants manual. g37 or IS 350 over 328. 335 if he leases. g37 or IS 350 if he plans to buy outright.

 

There is more to it than that. When people dump some coin on a luxury car most times people want to be associated with a successful luxury brand that is easily recognized by others. Its not just with luxury cars, but any high end good. A BMW can provide a feeling of "worth" that a better car on "paper" cannot provide. Call it a badge *****, call it what you want but its true. Otherwise the top selling cars in each class would be the best "Value" cars. That is rarely ever the case.

The buyer isn't a car guy and isn't into racing. As Primecut said Speed is a "bonus" but not a must have. He also might not want a larger car as the 3/IS are the same size but the G37 is much larger.

If both cars are 42k and he is buying I say go with the IS. If he is leasing the 328 makes a lot of sense with its "free" maintenance and cheap lease deals.

I am not suggesting any other car b/c he didn't ask about any other car.

Why do you have a red "S" in your signature btw?

 

I am assuming the S = Sport, as in G37S. Maybe the badge on the back of the car is like that (red S).

 

oh....so I guess everyone on here with a Corolla S and Type-S Acura and Si etc should so the same.

 

well duh, you get an extra 8 hp.

 

Makes sense. It used to be 6hp.....

This thread needs pics.

 

over half of that option list on the 328 comes standard on the IS lol

 

It all comes down to what the OP is looking for. Something smooth which feels like your in a old person car or a kiddish car which is stiff and somewhat uncomfortable in long rides..

1sicklex makes some good points about the leg room in the IS. If he plans to drive people around, the Lexus is a no go. Definitely no room in the back seats.

Other than that, I would go IS350 hands down over a 328i. Regardless if it is a lease or buy out. The extra ~80? hp is a extra plus..

 

When I cross-shopped the IS350 vs. 3-series, I did consider both the coupe and the sedan but only felt the coupe was attractive.

Since I use the car occasionally like a 2+2, I felt the sleek IS350 sedan with 4 doors made entry/exit much easier and the back seat was a bit roomier and higher than the coupe rear seat.

For comparison of back seat space, the new C-class has a roomier backseat than the BMW and much roomier than the IS.

 

Here's an interesting thread on e90post where a guy in a Ford pickup talks about how the 328i is "useless" to him (underpowered compared to its "class" competitors) and wishes the european 270 hp 330i was offered instead of the 328 (because he doesn't trust twin turbo reliability of the 335i)-

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274447

LOTS of heated responses. The vast vast majority of angry responses come from the people driving the 328is/325is.

I think it's somewhat telling, if they really didn't care about straight line power as much as they claim, I don't think they would show their frustration as much as they do.

Lots of class condescension d-baggery in general but still entertaining. Maybe you can extract some useful information out of that topic.

 

I can't stand the average person on any of the BMW forums. Completely biased about BMW and about 50% of them are just d-bags in general. Most of them can't admit that there might be a single flaw with any BMW (or German in general) car. If there's a problem with the design of your car, it's not the car's/BMW's fault, it's the fault of your stupid opinion or preference or expectation. If your car broke, there's a 90% chance it was your fault that it broke. LOL

It's a behavior I've seen here and other forums as well with the 'home team' brand, but it's by far the worst on BMW forums it seems. Funny enough some of (but not all of) the BMW fans that frequent THIS forum actually remind me of the people I am avoiding by not going to THOSE forums.

I remember my first post there ever asked if there was an aftermarket cup holder available for my 335i because the stock ones were pretty narrow and would not fit my wife's thermos for her morning breakfast drink. The responses I got largely insinuated that I was a stereotypical fat lazy american who needed to learn the superior habits of the Germans who do not drink big gulp sized sodas or for that matter don't even drink or eat anything while driving. And funny enough these were US citizens telling me this with their nose in the air. I understand Germans don't eat/drink while driving. We do because we tend to have longer commutes with more waiting at stop lights. It's just a cultural different... not right or wrong. And I'm sitting at about 10% BF with a build more ripped than probably 98% of the people in that thread.

FWIW I don't see why anyone that cared much about acceleration/power would buy a 328i or 325i when the 335i and 330i were available, so I'd believe anyone who owned a 32*i who told me they weren't that concerned with power. Those cars have enough power to not feel lethargic and make 95% of drivers out there feel content.