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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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is250 vs hs250

27 vs 35 combined mpg.

12000 miles per year

you save 110 gallons of gas per year.

That's a whopping $300 savings PER YEAR for buying an HS over an IS.

is it worth it? hah


how much is the government tax credit again?
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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no government tax credit for toyota/lexus models. The entire brand finished back in 2007

hybrids are not for saving money, its for being more eco concious and being smarter about being climate neutral
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
I know it's not a corolla!! you know what i mean.

pricing has been released.

standard model starting at $34,200* and the Premium model commanding $36,970*.

Standard features on the HS 250h include leather-trimmed seats; 10-way power-adjustable driver's seat with eight-way power-adjustable front passenger seat; a 10-speaker, 137-watt audio system with a six-disc CD changer, a subwoofer and center speaker; Bluetooth® for phone and music streaming capabilities; integrated subscription satellite radio (includes 90-day trial); USB/ iPod® connectivity operated via steering wheel controls or the display screen; and 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels. The HS 250h incorporates a standard class-leading 10-airbag Supplemental Restraint system and front active head rests.

The HS 250h Premium model adds heated/ventilated front seats trimmed in semi-aniline leather; 18-inch aluminum alloy wheels; rain-sensing windshield wipers; heated electrochromic exterior mirrors; genuine wood interior trim; and a new memory system that allows individual driver settings for seat, power tilt/telescopic steering wheel, outside mirrors and air conditioning settings to be recalled automatically by individual key fobs.


no doubt, the dealers will have a few extras on top of the premium option, e.g spoiler, alloys, ML stereo

so it will prob come out to $40000+.

$40k for a damn corolla-looking car??!?!


I don't see a Corolla in any way. I see what looks to be a big hit for Lexus.

that's like driving a super high-tech Aztek
You need to grow up!
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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It's a $40,000 prius, it uses prius chassis that's why it looks almost idenditical save the badge in the steering wheel. Add some leather stick on the Lexus badge and mark up the price even more.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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For the size and power and functionality, it's really a $40k Camry Hybrid.

Then again, a Camry Hybrid is $30k.

You might as well bask in the glory and technology of the HS250h. It has stuff that only the LS600hL and LX570 have...
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
is250 vs hs250

27 vs 35 combined mpg.

12000 miles per year

you save 110 gallons of gas per year.

That's a whopping $300 savings PER YEAR for buying an HS over an IS.

is it worth it? hah


how much is the government tax credit again?
Yes.. this is what I was getting at. The IS250 is almost as efficient, equally equipped, much much prettier, much better to drive, and cheaper. The problem with pricing the HS at 35K is that it would be more appealing as a package and fit in better with the Lexus lineup at ~30K. If I had a choice.. I'd get the IS250 over it any day. Or maybe I'd just decide to kill the environment with a 19 mpg used IS350 all over again.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ViniZaoD
Yes.. this is what I was getting at. The IS250 is almost as efficient, equally equipped, much much prettier, much better to drive, and cheaper. The problem with pricing the HS at 35K is that it would be more appealing as a package and fit in better with the Lexus lineup at ~30K. If I had a choice.. I'd get the IS250 over it any day. Or maybe I'd just decide to kill the environment with a 19 mpg used IS350 all over again.

equally equipped? the HS has (over the IS) driver monitoring pre collision system (versus the regular radar), lane keep assist which actually tilts the steering wheel to either side, and the new lexus enform and safety connect systems. Also gets the new remote touch navigation.

Also the IS is in its 5th model year, redesign soon.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
is250 vs hs250

27 vs 35 combined mpg.

12000 miles per year

you save 110 gallons of gas per year.

That's a whopping $300 savings PER YEAR for buying an HS over an IS.

is it worth it? hah


how much is the government tax credit again?
HS is more spacious though, especially the rear seats, it's a better family car than the IS, and has better gadgets.
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Personally I don't like it for numerous reasons. Love the concept, not so much the execution. I fully understand why people will rag on the car. I dont think it does much for the Lexus image (green tech yes, everything else nah) as people have been comparing it to a Corolla, Camry, Fusion, Avensis since it debuted.

With that said, Lexus will still sell a boat load of them as they will find many happy customers. Good for them.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormwind
It's a $40,000 prius, it uses prius chassis that's why it looks almost idenditical save the badge in the steering wheel. Add some leather stick on the Lexus badge and mark up the price even more.

a prius looks almost identical to an HS??

uh oh. someone needs to get his eyes checked.





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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
I know it's not a corolla!! you know what i mean.

pricing has been released.

standard model starting at $34,200* and the Premium model commanding $36,970*.

Standard features on the HS 250h include leather-trimmed seats; 10-way power-adjustable driver's seat with eight-way power-adjustable front passenger seat; a 10-speaker, 137-watt audio system with a six-disc CD changer, a subwoofer and center speaker; Bluetooth® for phone and music streaming capabilities; integrated subscription satellite radio (includes 90-day trial); USB/ iPod® connectivity operated via steering wheel controls or the display screen; and 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels. The HS 250h incorporates a standard class-leading 10-airbag Supplemental Restraint system and front active head rests.

The HS 250h Premium model adds heated/ventilated front seats trimmed in semi-aniline leather; 18-inch aluminum alloy wheels; rain-sensing windshield wipers; heated electrochromic exterior mirrors; genuine wood interior trim; and a new memory system that allows individual driver settings for seat, power tilt/telescopic steering wheel, outside mirrors and air conditioning settings to be recalled automatically by individual key fobs.


no doubt, the dealers will have a few extras on top of the premium option, e.g spoiler, alloys, ML stereo

so it will prob come out to $40000+.

$40k for a damn corolla-looking car??!?!

that's like driving a super high-tech Aztek

Have you even driven the car? I guess not... And if all you can do is judge a car by what it looks like than I can honestly say there will probably be very few cars that you will actually like.

My lexus dealer brought one around the other and I can tell you now it cannot be compared to the corolla and doing so just seems to show your lack of attention to details. But , horses for corses and if you only want to judge a book by its cover, more power to you. But I suspect that you only make your decisions off what you see on the net.

I loved the setup of the console , very easy to use and was extremly confortable. The interior quality was quite good and for what it is I think it is worth what they are asking.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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by your logic....
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flipside909
The HS250h is actually pretty fun to drive, especially with the Touring Package. This is an entry level luxury car. If you want something sporty or fun to drive, the IS or possibly the GS are the cars for that purpose.

Have you driven an HS yet? If not, I would encourage you to try it out. You'll be surprised.
Looking forward to driving one soon, haven't yet. But we both agree this is an entry level luxury car. Obviously the IS or GS are more sport-oriented. But as I said earlier, Lexus is the first to sell a ultra economy hybrid with some real luxury, way to go. And it sounds like the driving experience isn't bad either.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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I'm tempted to change the title as its caused a flame fest and we don't need that.

I don't like the HS styling much, have to wait to see it in person. I do think for the PRICE its a tech marvel. Nothing is close.
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I actually wish it would look like corolla because corolla looks 10x better than HS.
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