are Lexus engines EXACTLY the same as Toyota engines?

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May 27, 2009 | 07:14 AM
  #1  
For instance, is the 5.7L in the LX exactly the same as the 5.7L in the Land Cruiser? Is the 3.5 in the ES exactly the same as the 3.5 in the Camry XLE V6? I'm wondering because Lexus tends to specify premium gas, while Toyota tends to specify regular gas. Is the premium really needed, if it regular is good enough on the Toyota side?
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May 27, 2009 | 07:20 AM
  #2  
The engines in the IS, GS, LS, new RX, and SC are Lexus specific but the engines in the LX, GX, and ES are the exact same as their Toyota counterparts.

The IS, GS, and LS have higher compression, direct injection engines that truly require premium fuel. The others "recommend it" mostly to achieve the advertised horsepower rating though it might make you run .01% smoother in some instances.
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May 27, 2009 | 07:37 AM
  #3  
There may be some software difference that lets the Lexus engines take advantage of the higher octane.
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May 27, 2009 | 07:46 AM
  #4  
It's a bit complex...



2GR-FE =

* 2005- Toyota Avalon
* 2006- Toyota Aurion
* 2007- TRD Aurion (Eaton Twin-Vortices TRD supercharger)
* 2006- Toyota RAV4 V6
* 2006- Toyota Estima V6
* 2007- Toyota Previa V6
* 2007- Toyota Tarago V6
* 2007- Toyota Camry V6
* 2007- Toyota Sienna
* 2007- Lexus ES 350
* 2007- Lexus RX 350
* 2007- Toyota Kluger
* 2007- Toyota Blade Master
* 2007- Toyota Mark X Zio
* 2008- Toyota Alphard V6
* 2008- Toyota Highlander
* 2009- Toyota Venza V6
* 2009- Lotus Evora (280ps & 350Nm using Lotus engine management)
* 2010- Lexus RX 350 (updated to 275 hp)
* 2010- Lexus RX 450h (Atkinson cycle VVT-i)


2GR-FSE =

* 2006 Toyota Crown Athlete (Japan)
* 2006 Lexus GS 350 (Japan)
* 2006 Lexus GS 450h
* 2006 Lexus IS 350 (Japan and United States)
* 2007 Lexus GS 350 (United States)


1UR-FSE =

* 2007 Lexus LS 460 & LS 460 L
* 2009 Toyota Crown Majesta


1UR-FE =

* 2007 Lexus LS 460 & LS 460 L (Middle East)
* 2008 Lexus GS 460
* 2010 Toyota Tundra (310 HP)


3UR-FE =

* 2007 Toyota Tundra
* 2008 Toyota Sequoia
* 2008 Toyota Land Cruiser 200 Series - US market only
* 2008 Lexus LX 570
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May 27, 2009 | 08:15 AM
  #5  
Don't forget about the:

2UR-FSE = Lexus LS600h

2UR-GSE = Lexus IS-F
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May 27, 2009 | 09:07 AM
  #6  
Quote: Don't forget about the:

2UR-FSE = Lexus LS600h

2UR-GSE = Lexus IS-F
Yeah, but those engines are not shared by any other Toyota product. It's pretty exclusive...
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May 27, 2009 | 09:43 AM
  #7  
Quote: The engines in the IS, GS, LS, new RX, and SC are Lexus specific but the engines in the LX, GX, and ES are the exact same as their Toyota counterparts.

The IS, GS, and LS have higher compression, direct injection engines that truly require premium fuel. The others "recommend it" mostly to achieve the advertised horsepower rating though it might make you run .01% smoother in some instances.
There's been a lot of discussion about this on the ES350 forum and what grade of gas to use. The ES350 is rated at 272hp on premium, and the 3.5 V6(non-DI) in Toyota products (Camry, Avalon, RAV4, Venza, Sienna etc.) is rated at 268-270 hp on regular. It is my understanding too that premium is recommended to achieve the advertised hp.
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May 27, 2009 | 09:49 AM
  #8  
I need to get on memorizing these engine codes.....Good posts Phil and Mr. Johnson
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May 27, 2009 | 10:05 AM
  #9  
don't forget the Lotus Evora getting the 2GR-FE
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May 27, 2009 | 10:55 AM
  #10  
Quote: Yeah, but those engines are not shared by any other Toyota product. It's pretty exclusive...
What about the GX470 and the V8 4Runner
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May 27, 2009 | 11:02 AM
  #11  
Quote: What about the GX470 and the V8 4Runner
Those would be the 2UZ-FE
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May 27, 2009 | 01:27 PM
  #12  
Quote: What about the GX470 and the V8 4Runner
Quote: Those would be the 2UZ-FE
Oops. I forgot those...
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May 27, 2009 | 01:31 PM
  #13  
Quote:


2GR-FE =

* 2005- Toyota Avalon
* 2006- Toyota Aurion
* 2007- TRD Aurion (Eaton Twin-Vortices TRD supercharger)
* 2006- Toyota RAV4 V6
* 2006- Toyota Estima V6
* 2007- Toyota Previa V6
* 2007- Toyota Tarago V6
* 2007- Toyota Camry V6
* 2007- Toyota Sienna
* 2007- Lexus ES 350
* 2007- Lexus RX 350
* 2007- Toyota Kluger
* 2007- Toyota Blade Master
* 2007- Toyota Mark X Zio
* 2008- Toyota Alphard V6
* 2008- Toyota Highlander
* 2009- Toyota Venza V6
* 2009- Lotus Evora (280ps & 350Nm using Lotus engine management)
* 2010- Lexus RX 350 (updated to 275 hp)
* 2010- Lexus RX 450h (Atkinson cycle VVT-i)
Thanks for the info, everyone. Re the above, since the 3.5L in the RX450h isn't identical to those in the other models listed, would it be a good or bad idea to use regular gas?
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May 27, 2009 | 02:03 PM
  #14  
wikipedia.org is your friend
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May 27, 2009 | 07:18 PM
  #15  
Quote: Thanks for the info, everyone. Re the above, since the 3.5L in the RX450h isn't identical to those in the other models listed, would it be a good or bad idea to use regular gas?
its nowhere close to being indentical - i suggest that you run gas specified by lexus.
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