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Old May 18, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lxslvr2500
now guys, lets say I add an 08 335i sedan to the mix...how would it stack up as a daily driver in your guys's opinions?
i kind of like the sedan KillerGS4 lol.. Coupe is badass though. i love the 335i when we test drove it.
But if your not looking for speed than why pay more?

I think my mothers C is nice but not really liking the rear of the car, front looks good though. Shes got the sport, thats the only way to go with the C. and it sits .75 of an ich lower than the Luxury
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Old May 18, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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I'm gonna put my five cents into this thread, for all its worth.

Now, I cant really comment on the new C class or the G37, because I havent had much experience with them... actually no experience at all with the new C.

However, my brother owned a 2002 C320 that I drove on many occasions, and there was simply nothing to like about the car. The exterior was blah and boring, but somewhat classy, and generally well built. The reliability was pretty good as well, for the major part - my parents got it for him with 40k, and it was sold with around 80k on the clock. The only thing that got replaced was the alternator, everything else was maintenance - battery, brakes, tires, etc.

The interior looked and felt cheap, everything was ugly, and there were a bunch of interior problems - the shade broke, cigarette lighters were failing, some lights and switches had problems. Interior comfort was non existant. The rear seat was a joke, perhaps even worse than the IS. The front seats were ok, but the driving positing was horrible, the door armrest wasnt comfortable at all when the seat is moved all the way back. I'm 6'4 and I just couldnt make myself comfortable in that car, and my brother is only 5'-11, and still the biggest reason he got rid of that car is because he could never feel comfortable inside.

The only positive thing I will say about the interior is it was rattle free. Thats it.

Now to the suspension, it wasnt sporty of luxury, just somewhere in the middle. Overall I cant complain, nor brag about it.

Now to the engine and drivetrain. The old 3.2 had very decent power, took off the line fast and accelerated very well, with no lag at all. It would feel a bit sluggish on the highway speeds - after 60mph. I guess that had to do with the gearing. Also it returned decent fuel mileage. The transmission however was jerky, and while it was fast to react and shift, the jerkiness it produced during shifts defenately do not belong in a premium car. On a side note, that is also a problem with BMW 5 series.

As far as the previous gen G35, I think it was an excellent car, overall the best bang for the buck, but it did have very cheap, horrible, fugly interior. The plastics inside looked like they belong in a chrysler, orange cluster lighting was downright fugly, and generally the controls sucked. Also the exterior while nicely curved and finished with great HID projector headlights and LED tails, was poorly painted - the paint would fade and show swirlmarks right away. But it drove great, had very good suspension and drivetrain, and was surprisingly roomy inside.

All in all, if I had to chose between the previous gen C and G, I'd go with the G. If you added previous gen IS300 and 330 into the mix, I'd still go with the G. But if you added a previous gen TL-type S in there, I'd pick the TL.

Today, if you took these same competitors, its a much harder decision. Of course, the new TL is out of the question because its too backwards and ugly, but IS, C, G, and 3 are better than ever, and theres another legit competitor - thats the new A4. If I had to chose between them, I'd do it in the following order

#1 - A4 - Just because its purely stunning and gorgeous
#2 - 335 - Because it has major *****, but its interior quality is pretty bad
#3 - IS350 - A nice overall package, nice performance, good looks, and great interior
#4 - G37 - A great overall package, but lagging behind A4 in looks, 335 in performance and IS350 in interior. Makes up for it with interior spaciousness, without compromising sportiness.
#5 - C class - Also a decent package, but lags behind the pack in performance and still seems to have cheap and crumpled interior. Reason I put it last is because I dont seem to find a single clear advantage it has over the rest of the pack.
the w203 is a pos, and basing your opinion on the w204 with w203 in eyes is like comparing the tata nano to the maybach landulet
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Old May 18, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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335 all the way. Put up against the G, why not have the real thing? The BMW?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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the G35 will provide a better driving experience than a C350. Teh infiniti will out accelerate, brake, and corner the benz, and is larger. no contest imo
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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The C class might not be the most competitive from a performance perspective but in my opinion (and as most reviews state) it is probably the most balanced car in its class combining elements of sport and luxury (and other ideals) in a neat package. It handles well and the suspension has the right blend of sport and comfort, enough to satisfy someone who wants a comfortable car that also handles well. In my experience every C class has generally followed this formula and Mercedes is not about to change that just because some 20 year old kids on a car forum think it has to rival a G35/G37 etc.. These guys know what sells their cars - and it isn't razor sharp handling and brutal acceleration. What makes the C class such a good car overall is the balance it achieves between various ideals. It might not appeal to your typical young buyer but the C class has quite a few strengths which its rivals have a hard time matching.

Also, how is a C350 no fun? How is that? Are we that spoiled these days? The C350 is a pretty quick car in its own right with its 268 (272) hp engine (even quicker than the Cadillac CTS V6 I believe). I even thought my ex-C200 CDI was fun to drive and it was also pretty agile, too. I can only imagine how fun a C350 must feel like.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinV
The C class might not be the most competitive from a performance perspective but in my opinion (and as most reviews state) it is probably the most balanced car in its class combining elements of sport and luxury (and other ideals) in a neat package. It handles well and the suspension has the right blend of sport and comfort, enough to satisfy someone who wants a comfortable car that also handles well. In my experience every C class has generally followed this formula and Mercedes is not about to change that just because some 20 year old kids on a car forum think it has to rival a G35/G37 etc.. These guys know what sells their cars - and it isn't razor sharp handling and brutal acceleration. What makes the C class such a good car overall is the balance it achieves between various ideals. It might not appeal to your typical young buyer but the C class has quite a few strengths which its rivals have a hard time matching.

Also, how is a C350 no fun? How is that? Are we that spoiled these days? The C350 is a pretty quick car in its own right with its 268 (272) hp engine (even quicker than the Cadillac CTS V6 I believe). I even thought my ex-C200 CDI was fun to drive and it was also pretty agile, too. I can only imagine how fun a C350 must feel like.

Agreed. The funny thing is the G35/37 never performed like the HP rating. Nissan sells on the image or power/performance. They started it with the 222hp Maxima (that drove no faster than the 190hp model) then the 240hp GS looking Altima, then 255 Maxima, then 260hp G35 etc etc. They sell on power, which is fine but that not all to a car.

Most can't use 200hp correctly, let alone 327. Its for bragging rights.

The 335 has 300hp and is faster than anything in its class.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
The 335 has 300hp and is faster than anything in its class.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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yes 300 tqs is where that 0-60 time comes from
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Old May 19, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinV
The C class might not be the most competitive from a performance perspective but in my opinion (and as most reviews state) it is probably the most balanced car in its class combining elements of sport and luxury (and other ideals) in a neat package. It handles well and the suspension has the right blend of sport and comfort, enough to satisfy someone who wants a comfortable car that also handles well. In my experience every C class has generally followed this formula and Mercedes is not about to change that just because some 20 year old kids on a car forum think it has to rival a G35/G37 etc.. These guys know what sells their cars - and it isn't razor sharp handling and brutal acceleration. What makes the C class such a good car overall is the balance it achieves between various ideals. It might not appeal to your typical young buyer but the C class has quite a few strengths which its rivals have a hard time matching.

Also, how is a C350 no fun? How is that? Are we that spoiled these days? The C350 is a pretty quick car in its own right with its 268 (272) hp engine (even quicker than the Cadillac CTS V6 I believe). I even thought my ex-C200 CDI was fun to drive and it was also pretty agile, too. I can only imagine how fun a C350 must feel like.
Couldent of said it better my self. The G35/7 sells well because of its impressive spec sheet, mercedes doesnt have to have a very impressive spec sheet to sell the C. Also if you think the G is good value than you should look at C63 it starts at 57k and has 450hp. The base corvette has 430 and starts at 50k. The C63 will provide you 90% of the thrills and be practicle enough to be a very comfterable dd and people carrier.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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G35 amd C class won't give you more room.
I drove 335i, g37, c350 before I bought my IS350 3 days ago and they are not bigger than IS.
How about a used Lexus LS? 2004?
My parents' 05 LS430 is huge and it still runs great with 0 problem. Also I got 21.3 miles avg per tank and I can go 400miels +
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Old May 20, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Agreed. The funny thing is the G35/37 never performed like the HP rating. Nissan sells on the image or power/performance. They started it with the 222hp Maxima (that drove no faster than the 190hp model) then the 240hp GS looking Altima, then 255 Maxima, then 260hp G35 etc etc. They sell on power, which is fine but that not all to a car.

Most can't use 200hp correctly, let alone 327. Its for bragging rights.

The 335 has 300hp and is faster than anything in its class.
Acuras are the same, they always drives slower than the HP rating. Must be their transmissions.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Agreed. The funny thing is the G35/37 never performed like the HP rating. Nissan sells on the image or power/performance. They started it with the 222hp Maxima (that drove no faster than the 190hp model) then the 240hp GS looking Altima, then 255 Maxima, then 260hp G35 etc etc. They sell on power, which is fine but that not all to a car.

Most can't use 200hp correctly, let alone 327. Its for bragging rights.

The 335 has 300hp and is faster than anything in its class.
Yep, what's with that. Notice that most car mags instrumented testing shows the 335 and the IS350 to be faster than the G37's. Makes you wonder about horsepower ratings.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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i thought that's because torque is what makes the 0-60 time

335i: 300 lb-ft @ 1400-5000
G35: 268 lb-ft @ 4800
G37: 269 lb-ft @ 5200
IS350: 277 lb-ft @ 4800

from these ratings 0-60 times should be 335<IS350<G
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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It could be a bunch of different factors. for initial acceleration, its torque, tranny gearing, weight, traction. Clearly Lexus/BMW know how to make cars that are more than the sum of their parts when it comes to acceleration. The GS 400 was at one time the fastest in class, the IS 350 was once fastest in class. Benz/BMW can make claims as well.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Yep, what's with that. Notice that most car mags instrumented testing shows the 335 and the IS350 to be faster than the G37's. Makes you wonder about horsepower ratings.
If you get a chance try to find some WHP figures, BMW under rates them as do Infiniti for the G37. Some cars have issues with initial startup acceleration traction reducing the 0-60 times (t.c, lsd, tires, gearing, weight, powerband, etc).

Originally Posted by eternal07
G35 amd C class won't give you more room.
I drove 335i, g37, c350 before I bought my IS350 3 days ago and they are not bigger than IS.
How about a used Lexus LS? 2004?
My parents' 05 LS430 is huge and it still runs great with 0 problem. Also I got 21.3 miles avg per tank and I can go 400miels +
I found the IS to have the least amount of room compared to its competitors
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