Left-lane slowpokes drive you crazy?
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Even in Germany, the trend is towards fewer and fewer areas with unlimited speeds, as traffic grows and becomes more dense. France is also tending towards lower limits as well.
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Sig worthy!!!! I took a pic this morning of a guy in a new Civic going as slow as he wanted in the fast lane, making all of us go around. As we drive by, he is on the gotdamn phone.
I took pics but missed him being on the phone.
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omg, do we ever. That said, Vancouver has the worst drivers I've ever seen anywhere. Seriously.
The following are standard practice:
- no blinker to change lanes
- changing lanes because you signaled reguardless of what is beside you
- stopping at green lights
- at a 2-way stop, the guy w.o the stop sign stops to let the guy with the stop sign pass
- blatently running red lights (not just like the first nano-second of the red, I mean like completely red)
- U-turn where ever the hell you want
- 3-point-turn where ever the hell you want (even worse)
- pulling only half-assed-ly off to the side and not putting ANY blinkers on to indicate what your stupid self is doing
- ... I'm sure there are more, maybe I'll have some when I get home later
The following are standard practice:
- no blinker to change lanes
- changing lanes because you signaled reguardless of what is beside you
- stopping at green lights
- at a 2-way stop, the guy w.o the stop sign stops to let the guy with the stop sign pass
- blatently running red lights (not just like the first nano-second of the red, I mean like completely red)
- U-turn where ever the hell you want
- 3-point-turn where ever the hell you want (even worse)
- pulling only half-assed-ly off to the side and not putting ANY blinkers on to indicate what your stupid self is doing
- ... I'm sure there are more, maybe I'll have some when I get home later
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[QUOTE=meowCat;4121193]mmarshall, you are wrong on this one.
Whether you are at the speed limit, below, or above, if you are blocking traffic in the inside lane (or passing lane) you move the hell over. Following the speed limit doesn't make you always right. You gotta look at the situation, the traffic condition around you. If I see you driving ABOVE 5 mph over the speed limit in the passing lane in the interstate blocking traffic, I will pass you by going around you, giving you a nasty gesture (the middle finger thingie), cut in front of you and slam on the brake.
Please, don't be one of those slowpokes in the left lane.... I'm kind of surprised the way you commented here. Usually the real good drivers don't say like that. Remember, following the speed limit doesn't mean jack...... it doesn't make you always right. It's a LESSON FOR YOU.... LOL!
Correct, and it's the law in the most populous car-oriented state of California.
Ignoring the fact that it's law in California, it's considered to be good driving techique/good driving etiquette practiced by experienced and skilled drivers. Good drivers know the drill, passing on the left, cruising at the right regardless of speed.
Whether you are at the speed limit, below, or above, if you are blocking traffic in the inside lane (or passing lane) you move the hell over. Following the speed limit doesn't make you always right. You gotta look at the situation, the traffic condition around you. If I see you driving ABOVE 5 mph over the speed limit in the passing lane in the interstate blocking traffic, I will pass you by going around you, giving you a nasty gesture (the middle finger thingie), cut in front of you and slam on the brake.
Please, don't be one of those slowpokes in the left lane.... I'm kind of surprised the way you commented here. Usually the real good drivers don't say like that. Remember, following the speed limit doesn't mean jack...... it doesn't make you always right. It's a LESSON FOR YOU.... LOL!
Correct, and it's the law in the most populous car-oriented state of California.
Ignoring the fact that it's law in California, it's considered to be good driving techique/good driving etiquette practiced by experienced and skilled drivers. Good drivers know the drill, passing on the left, cruising at the right regardless of speed.
Last edited by IS-SV; Dec 30, 2008 at 10:48 AM.
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mmarshall, you are wrong on this one.
Whether you are at the speed limit, below, or above, if you are blocking traffic in the inside lane (or passing lane) you move the hell over. Following the speed limit doesn't make you always right. You gotta look at the situation, the traffic condition around you. If I see you driving ABOVE 5 mph over the speed limit in the passing lane in the interstate blocking traffic, I will pass you by going around you, giving you a nasty gesture (the middle finger thingie), cut in front of you and slam on the brake.
Please, don't be one of those slowpokes in the left lane.... I'm kind of surprised the way you commented here. Usually the real good drivers don't say like that. Remember, following the speed limit doesn't mean jack...... it doesn't make you always right. It's a LESSON FOR YOU.... LOL!
Whether you are at the speed limit, below, or above, if you are blocking traffic in the inside lane (or passing lane) you move the hell over. Following the speed limit doesn't make you always right. You gotta look at the situation, the traffic condition around you. If I see you driving ABOVE 5 mph over the speed limit in the passing lane in the interstate blocking traffic, I will pass you by going around you, giving you a nasty gesture (the middle finger thingie), cut in front of you and slam on the brake.
Please, don't be one of those slowpokes in the left lane.... I'm kind of surprised the way you commented here. Usually the real good drivers don't say like that. Remember, following the speed limit doesn't mean jack...... it doesn't make you always right. It's a LESSON FOR YOU.... LOL!
I'm kind of surprised the way you commented here. Usually the real good drivers don't say like that.
And, last, speeding in the left lane does not necessarily make someone a "good " driver. Individual skill levels among drivers can, and do, vary enormously from one to another.
Last edited by mmarshall; Dec 31, 2008 at 05:50 AM.
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^ mmarshall, you've got a good driving habit. Good for you.
I was not serious about pointing you a finger and slamming on the brake part... I know you are a good guy and I didn't mean harm.
That's a hell of good driving record you got there. I haven't got a speeding ticket for several years now. No accident for 13 years.... My dad hasn't got any speeding ticket for 18 years now and no accident for....how many decades?
Anyways... he has the exact same mind set as I have, "Left lane is passing lane, not a cruising lane".
I was not serious about pointing you a finger and slamming on the brake part... I know you are a good guy and I didn't mean harm.That's a hell of good driving record you got there. I haven't got a speeding ticket for several years now. No accident for 13 years.... My dad hasn't got any speeding ticket for 18 years now and no accident for....how many decades?
Anyways... he has the exact same mind set as I have, "Left lane is passing lane, not a cruising lane".
My personal driving record (in my personal cars) is not perfect....I'm human like anyone else. I've got one or two chargable accidents (not serious ones) on it over the years, and some red-light violations, but nothing else. I still get the lowest insurance rates, and have never wrecked a car I was reviewing.Props to you and your dad.
Keep up the good work. Most cops won't ticket you on a freeway if you are going less than 10 MPH over the limit or so....but I wouldn't push it much more than that.
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So then, you have to remember that if you are doing 75 in a 55 or 65 zone and you are "stuck" behind a person doing the limit in the left lane, that person has the law on his/her side, not you....unless it is an emergency vehicle with lights or siren on. In most cases, you just need to slow down a little. But that's the trouble.....many people just refuse to slow down, even when over the limit.
What's really f'in annoying is when you're doing say 75-80 in the left lane and someone in the right lane is doing 60 and switches into you're lane and only speeds up to 65.
About the only thing to love about Illinois right now.
RUTHERFORD: "LEFT LANE LAW" IMPROVING SAFETY ON ILLINOIS HIGHWAYS
For Immediate Release
January 9, 2006/acs
Springfield - For two years the state's 'left lane law' has sought to increase safety on Illinois' highways and interstates by making it a moving violation for a driver to remain in the left lane of a multi-state highway and detain the traffic flow, said State Senator Dan Rutherford (R-Pontiac).
Rutherford reported that most often state law enforcement officials choose to issue warning citations to drivers in violation of the new law, as opposed to actually ticketing and fining the individual. He said that Illinois police are taking the law seriously, and trying to raise awareness about the dangers of driving slowly in the left lane, but are being reasonable about citing people who violate the law. Since January 1, 2004, Illinois State Police issued 170 citations statewide for the violation of the law, but have given out 2647 warnings.
Many Illinois drivers have been irritated by motorists who monopolize the left lane and hold up traffic. Senator Rutherford explained that slow drivers in the left lane aren't just an irritation, but can be a serious driving hazard leading to road rage, tailgating, increased congestion, and of course accidents, on roads where people are driving at high speeds.
"Slow vehicles in the left lane can pose a serious safety hazard. In addition, drivers who unnecessarily occupy the left lane can detain traffic on the highways and hold up emergency service vehicles that get caught in the traffic downstream," said Rutherford. "The new law was intended to give law enforcement officials another tool they can use if they see a hazard occurring on interstates due to slow left lane use."
The law specifically prohibits detaining traffic in the left lane on interstates and highways, with logical exceptions:
** When passing another vehicle;
** When no other vehicle is directly behind the vehicle in the left lane;
** When traffic conditions and congestion make it impractical to drive in the right lane;
** When snow or other inclement weather conditions make it necessary to drive in the left lane;
** When obstructions or hazards exist in the right lane;
** When approaching an emergency vehicle or highway construction area;
** When exiting the highway from the left lane;
** When it is necessary to use I-PASS or to comply with an official traffic control device; or
** When changing lanes to avoid law enforcement vehicles, emergency vehicles, highway maintenance vehicles, and workers or personnel.
"The statistics indicate that state law enforcement is trying to raise public awareness about the safety concerns associated with slow left-lane drivers, but officers have been using common sense and discretion when handing out citations," Rutherford said.
For Immediate Release
January 9, 2006/acs
Springfield - For two years the state's 'left lane law' has sought to increase safety on Illinois' highways and interstates by making it a moving violation for a driver to remain in the left lane of a multi-state highway and detain the traffic flow, said State Senator Dan Rutherford (R-Pontiac).
Rutherford reported that most often state law enforcement officials choose to issue warning citations to drivers in violation of the new law, as opposed to actually ticketing and fining the individual. He said that Illinois police are taking the law seriously, and trying to raise awareness about the dangers of driving slowly in the left lane, but are being reasonable about citing people who violate the law. Since January 1, 2004, Illinois State Police issued 170 citations statewide for the violation of the law, but have given out 2647 warnings.
Many Illinois drivers have been irritated by motorists who monopolize the left lane and hold up traffic. Senator Rutherford explained that slow drivers in the left lane aren't just an irritation, but can be a serious driving hazard leading to road rage, tailgating, increased congestion, and of course accidents, on roads where people are driving at high speeds.
"Slow vehicles in the left lane can pose a serious safety hazard. In addition, drivers who unnecessarily occupy the left lane can detain traffic on the highways and hold up emergency service vehicles that get caught in the traffic downstream," said Rutherford. "The new law was intended to give law enforcement officials another tool they can use if they see a hazard occurring on interstates due to slow left lane use."
The law specifically prohibits detaining traffic in the left lane on interstates and highways, with logical exceptions:
** When passing another vehicle;
** When no other vehicle is directly behind the vehicle in the left lane;
** When traffic conditions and congestion make it impractical to drive in the right lane;
** When snow or other inclement weather conditions make it necessary to drive in the left lane;
** When obstructions or hazards exist in the right lane;
** When approaching an emergency vehicle or highway construction area;
** When exiting the highway from the left lane;
** When it is necessary to use I-PASS or to comply with an official traffic control device; or
** When changing lanes to avoid law enforcement vehicles, emergency vehicles, highway maintenance vehicles, and workers or personnel.
"The statistics indicate that state law enforcement is trying to raise public awareness about the safety concerns associated with slow left-lane drivers, but officers have been using common sense and discretion when handing out citations," Rutherford said.
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[QUOTE=mmarshall;4124193
Well, I have paid the lowest insurance rates in my class for virtually my whole life, and have a pretty clean (but not perfect) driving record. I may not drive at triple-digit speeds, but I am considered a good driver.
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So important to an enthusiast that owns multiple cars. Keeping a clean driving record affords a driver low insurance rates.
Well, I have paid the lowest insurance rates in my class for virtually my whole life, and have a pretty clean (but not perfect) driving record. I may not drive at triple-digit speeds, but I am considered a good driver.
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So important to an enthusiast that owns multiple cars. Keeping a clean driving record affords a driver low insurance rates.
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