Hummers going bye bye?
Saw two Ford dealerships recently go out of business in So Ca. Appears Hummer is really hurting as well. Tough times all around.
The WSJ reports that Towbin Hummer is the only Hummer dealer in Las Vegas, and the brand's biggest franchise in the US — at least it will be until tomorrow, when the dealership shuts its doors for good. While Towbin will be the eighth Hummer dealer to close this year (equivalent to five percent of the brand's dealers), it's perhaps the most significant due to its location and place on the sales charts. After all, when you stake your claim on being the biggest and the baddest, and Vegas rejects you, you've probably hit the end of the line. But the Towbin dealership closure isn't just a bust for owner and self-described Hummer aficionado Dan Towbin; it's a big problem for GM too.
It's suddenly becoming more apparent why GM considers the sale of Hummer to be an "urgent" matter: perhaps it's because with every day that passes — and every dealer that closes — the value of the brand is dropping like we drop c-notes at the craps table. If GM wants to get anything out of this deal, they have to act quickly. Evidence is mounting that keeping Hummer as a viable concern in the US market is unlikely, so any potential suitors will need to come from countries with a strong market for over-the-top SUVs
It's suddenly becoming more apparent why GM considers the sale of Hummer to be an "urgent" matter: perhaps it's because with every day that passes — and every dealer that closes — the value of the brand is dropping like we drop c-notes at the craps table. If GM wants to get anything out of this deal, they have to act quickly. Evidence is mounting that keeping Hummer as a viable concern in the US market is unlikely, so any potential suitors will need to come from countries with a strong market for over-the-top SUVs
GM was not just looking at selling brands but also other businesses, but Hummer would be among the first, he said.
The gas-guzzling Hummer has hurt GM's image at a time when consumers demand more fuel efficiency as high oil prices hurt. Hummer's U.S. sales fell 40 percent in the first half of the year.
GM is realigning its North American production to reflect a U.S. auto market reeling from an oil shock being compared to those of the 1970s. It plans to close four truck plants but add shifts at two others that build popular higher mileage cars.
Henderson expects softer sales in the United States in 2008 as oil prices and the credit crisis deter customers.
"It is going to stay challenging for some time," he said. "Have we found the bottom? I don't know."
The gas-guzzling Hummer has hurt GM's image at a time when consumers demand more fuel efficiency as high oil prices hurt. Hummer's U.S. sales fell 40 percent in the first half of the year.
GM is realigning its North American production to reflect a U.S. auto market reeling from an oil shock being compared to those of the 1970s. It plans to close four truck plants but add shifts at two others that build popular higher mileage cars.
Henderson expects softer sales in the United States in 2008 as oil prices and the credit crisis deter customers.
"It is going to stay challenging for some time," he said. "Have we found the bottom? I don't know."
Despite how badly GM wants to dump the Hummer, a looming global recession (and of course high oil prices) may be putting the kibosh on that plan.
General Motors (GM) had been in preliminary talks with automakers across Asia (including those in India and Russia) regarding the sale of its Hummer division. But now Chinese SUV maker Hunan Changfeng has broken off talks with GM and no longer has any interest in purchasing the gas-guzzler. Their remarks do not bode well for GM.
According to a Reuters source, Changfeng chose not to proceed because "the Hummer is way too expensive for the Chinese military and demand from civilian buyers is not big enough to justify a purchase, especially with oil prices running near an all-time high." The market leader in the Chinese auto industry, SAIC Motors, and the No. 3 player, Dongfeng, also have said they have little interest in the Hummer.
Considering that China is about the only global market left still purchasing Hummers, these develoments are not encouraging for GM's planned sale. Now it's up to a Russian billionaire, an Indian automaker (Mahindra and Mahindra) or a Turkish private equity fund to come through.
General Motors (GM) had been in preliminary talks with automakers across Asia (including those in India and Russia) regarding the sale of its Hummer division. But now Chinese SUV maker Hunan Changfeng has broken off talks with GM and no longer has any interest in purchasing the gas-guzzler. Their remarks do not bode well for GM.
According to a Reuters source, Changfeng chose not to proceed because "the Hummer is way too expensive for the Chinese military and demand from civilian buyers is not big enough to justify a purchase, especially with oil prices running near an all-time high." The market leader in the Chinese auto industry, SAIC Motors, and the No. 3 player, Dongfeng, also have said they have little interest in the Hummer.
Considering that China is about the only global market left still purchasing Hummers, these develoments are not encouraging for GM's planned sale. Now it's up to a Russian billionaire, an Indian automaker (Mahindra and Mahindra) or a Turkish private equity fund to come through.
Last edited by Pearlpower; Sep 12, 2008 at 06:29 PM.
I would fully anticipate that Hummer will be sold which is a shame because I think that they are good looking cars. Besides fuel economy, the one thing that hummer was missing was an upscale version (a point originally made by a major car magazine but I agree). For that much money you want more than just off-road capabilities.
I would have bought one for sure if they had a nicer interior (even at a higher price). I guess that they felt that the Escalade would cover that but the Escalade lacks the off road capability.
From a capability standpoint I took an H1 and H2 off roading (real serious off roading) and they are amazingly capable vehicles. I was absolutely shocked at what those vehicles are capable of doing.
Too bad they don't stick in the GM hybrid engines in these bad boys as a standard feature. If they did that then I think that they could keep selling.
I would have bought one for sure if they had a nicer interior (even at a higher price). I guess that they felt that the Escalade would cover that but the Escalade lacks the off road capability.
From a capability standpoint I took an H1 and H2 off roading (real serious off roading) and they are amazingly capable vehicles. I was absolutely shocked at what those vehicles are capable of doing.
Too bad they don't stick in the GM hybrid engines in these bad boys as a standard feature. If they did that then I think that they could keep selling.
Kind of ironic that it's Towbin thats closing... I remember the show the had on A&E and how they sold cars left and right at the Dodge dealership... Seems like he can't sell the unsellable like he said he could...
I feel bad for them. I see on the highway by me here in southern Miami this enormous dealer, Williamson, and it seems they have nothing but Hummers piled sky high on top of their parking lot.
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They turned Hummer into cute-utes so even militaries won't use them. Hummer was right for the time but its not a long term brand. However, those saying we don't need Hummer based on projections got laughed at as the profit on a H2 was literally 25k for each sold!!!
What they did at the time was right for Hummer BUT they should have sold it 2 years ago. Their forecasters should be slapped.
What they did at the time was right for Hummer BUT they should have sold it 2 years ago. Their forecasters should be slapped.
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I'm sure having their own separate dealer network must be expensive so why not just trim down the model line and fold the 3+ remaining models into an existing GM brand? Would it be so bad to have a GMC H2 or Chevy H3?
New Century Ford @ 1212 E. Las Tunas Dr, San Gabriel, CA
The building itself is only a few years old as they moved from a location further down Las Tunas. That being said, it's still pretty ugly.
The building itself is only a few years old as they moved from a location further down Las Tunas. That being said, it's still pretty ugly.
One of my Nor Cal buddies who lives in the Sierras loves his Hummer. Yeah it bites with gas but he says it handles the snow, inclines, ground clearance better than any of his GM or Ford trucks.
Was talking with a business associate who says their son's GF was let go from her position at the Hummer dealer in Vegas. Hummer had their time...it's bye-bye.
Was talking with a business associate who says their son's GF was let go from her position at the Hummer dealer in Vegas. Hummer had their time...it's bye-bye.











