Insideline: GS350 vs. Genesis 4.6
08-18-08, 03:02 PM
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This is the most retarded comparo ever
The perfect test for the Genesis using Edmunds logic of is the Cadillac CTS v6 DI vs the Genesis 4.6
Both cars invoice at $34k. Both MSRP at $37k. Both are rwd....apparently comparos don't take into account engine sizes.
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08-18-08, 03:29 PM
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They should really compare Genesis V6 to ES350. This is the car it will be competing against, not GS or LS.
Not really their fault, it is the Hyundai that is targetting upper class in their commercials, so maybe thats why their sales goals are so low?
Not really their fault, it is the Hyundai that is targetting upper class in their commercials, so maybe thats why their sales goals are so low?
08-18-08, 03:35 PM
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not the first time either, Hzundai constantly compared Veracruz to other luxury SUV's instead of Highlander and guess what, its sales are 8x lower than RX and 10x lower than Highlander...
08-18-08, 03:37 PM
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And as you can see price was the determining factor in this test.
Personal Rating (2.5%): Purely subjective. After the test, each participating editor was asked to rank the vehicles in order of preference based on which he or she would buy for his or her own use. Each editor was told to think of it as "My money, my daily driver, my choice would be..."
Recommended Rating (2.5%): After the test, each participating editor was asked to rank the vehicles in order of preference, based on which he or she thought would be best for the average consumer shopping in this segment. Each editor was told to think of it as "Your significant other's money, your conscience, your recommendation would be..."
31-Point Evaluation (15%): Each participating editor ranked both cars using a comprehensive 31-point evaluation process. The evaluation covered everything from exterior design to cupholders. Scoring was calculated on a point system, and the scores listed are averages based on all test participants' evaluations.
Feature Content (15%): Editors picked 10 significant distinguishing features they thought would be most beneficial to a consumer shopping in this segment. Each test vehicle was then given a score based on which of those features it possessed. More points were awarded when these features were standard (3 points), optional and present on this test vehicle (2 points), optional but not present (1 point), and no points were given if the feature was unavailable on a given vehicle. The score given here represents the percentage of points, out of a total possible 30 points. Feature content and price are weighted equally for this "what you get for the money" comparison test.
Performance Testing (20%): We subjected these cars to our standard set of performance tests. Scores were calculated by giving the best car in each specific performance category 100 percent. The other car was awarded points based on how close it came to the best-performing car's score.
Fuel Consumption (20%): Fuel consumption is an important purchase motivation, especially in fuel-efficient vehicles such as these, so this category was weighted heavily. Using EPA combined fuel economy ratings as the basis for comparison, we awarded a score of 100 percent to the more fuel-efficient vehicle. The less-efficient vehicle was scored proportionally based on how close it came to the better-performing vehicle's fuel consumption.
Price (25%): The numbers listed were the result of a simple percentage calculation based on the less expensive vehicle in the comparison test. Using the as-tested prices of the actual evaluation vehicles, the less expensive vehicle received a score of 100, with the remaining vehicle receiving a lesser score based on how much it costs. Price and feature content are weighted equally for this "what you get for the money" comparison test.
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Final Rankings Item Weight Genesis V8 GS 350 Personal Rating 2.5% 50.0 100.0 Recommended Rating 2.5% 66.7 83.3 Evaluation Score 15% 82.4 84.0 Feature Content 15% 59.3 63.0 Performance 20% 96.8 96.7 Fuel Consumption 20% 84.2 100.0 Price 25% 100.0 81.5 Total Score 100.0% 68.5 66.3 Final Ranking 1 2 $42,000 $49,760
Personal Rating (2.5%): Purely subjective. After the test, each participating editor was asked to rank the vehicles in order of preference based on which he or she would buy for his or her own use. Each editor was told to think of it as "My money, my daily driver, my choice would be..."
Recommended Rating (2.5%): After the test, each participating editor was asked to rank the vehicles in order of preference, based on which he or she thought would be best for the average consumer shopping in this segment. Each editor was told to think of it as "Your significant other's money, your conscience, your recommendation would be..."
31-Point Evaluation (15%): Each participating editor ranked both cars using a comprehensive 31-point evaluation process. The evaluation covered everything from exterior design to cupholders. Scoring was calculated on a point system, and the scores listed are averages based on all test participants' evaluations.
Feature Content (15%): Editors picked 10 significant distinguishing features they thought would be most beneficial to a consumer shopping in this segment. Each test vehicle was then given a score based on which of those features it possessed. More points were awarded when these features were standard (3 points), optional and present on this test vehicle (2 points), optional but not present (1 point), and no points were given if the feature was unavailable on a given vehicle. The score given here represents the percentage of points, out of a total possible 30 points. Feature content and price are weighted equally for this "what you get for the money" comparison test.
Performance Testing (20%): We subjected these cars to our standard set of performance tests. Scores were calculated by giving the best car in each specific performance category 100 percent. The other car was awarded points based on how close it came to the best-performing car's score.
Fuel Consumption (20%): Fuel consumption is an important purchase motivation, especially in fuel-efficient vehicles such as these, so this category was weighted heavily. Using EPA combined fuel economy ratings as the basis for comparison, we awarded a score of 100 percent to the more fuel-efficient vehicle. The less-efficient vehicle was scored proportionally based on how close it came to the better-performing vehicle's fuel consumption.
Price (25%): The numbers listed were the result of a simple percentage calculation based on the less expensive vehicle in the comparison test. Using the as-tested prices of the actual evaluation vehicles, the less expensive vehicle received a score of 100, with the remaining vehicle receiving a lesser score based on how much it costs. Price and feature content are weighted equally for this "what you get for the money" comparison test.
08-18-08, 03:38 PM
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1. cooling seats
2. MPG MPG MPG
3. Performance
4. carpeting in the trunk
5. less cheapo plastic.
Yes it does offer a lot for the money. But that does not mean more. But it does offer more cylinders for less money but less MPG and performance.
08-18-08, 03:41 PM
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And as you can see price was the determining factor in this test.
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Price (25%): The numbers listed were the result of a simple percentage calculation based on the less expensive vehicle in the comparison test. Using the as-tested prices of the actual evaluation vehicles, the less expensive vehicle received a score of 100, with the remaining vehicle receiving a lesser score based on how much it costs. Price and feature content are weighted equally for this "what you get for the money" comparison test.
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Final Rankings Item Weight Genesis V8 GS 350 Personal Rating 2.5% 50.0 100.0 Recommended Rating 2.5% 66.7 83.3 Evaluation Score 15% 82.4 84.0 Feature Content 15% 59.3 63.0 Performance 20% 96.8 96.7 Fuel Consumption 20% 84.2 100.0 Price 25% 100.0 81.5 Total Score 100.0% 68.5 66.3 Final Ranking 1 2 $42,000 $49,760
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Price (25%): The numbers listed were the result of a simple percentage calculation based on the less expensive vehicle in the comparison test. Using the as-tested prices of the actual evaluation vehicles, the less expensive vehicle received a score of 100, with the remaining vehicle receiving a lesser score based on how much it costs. Price and feature content are weighted equally for this "what you get for the money" comparison test.
If price was so important that a luxury nameplate Lexus should not of been in the test at all.
08-18-08, 03:45 PM
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Plus, the Genesis V8 has more hp, but the GS460 has more torque.
As we all know, the mpg from track tests are virtually useless, as we don't know how the hell each car was driven.
08-18-08, 03:52 PM
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A couple things.
1. Edmunds reviews are on par with C&D butt wipes. Written by people that drive Elements and have the rational of putting on sun tan lotion at the mall.
2. I am not offended by the result, clearly it was based on price at the end. I think the JEST of this article is the Genesis, winning or losing this comparo, is pretty credible to battle the GS and others in this class.
You see some people don't care that the GS is built in Tahara or that its won design awards. Some people go look at MSRP and see the Genesis looks nearly as nice, is bigger with considerable power with a good interior and well, price wins.
I totally understand that. The Genesis is no 1/2 halfed effort like a G20 of years ago. This is the REAL DEAL.
Personally, I am buying the GS but when I see a Genesis, I see a damn good car.
1. Edmunds reviews are on par with C&D butt wipes. Written by people that drive Elements and have the rational of putting on sun tan lotion at the mall.
2. I am not offended by the result, clearly it was based on price at the end. I think the JEST of this article is the Genesis, winning or losing this comparo, is pretty credible to battle the GS and others in this class.
You see some people don't care that the GS is built in Tahara or that its won design awards. Some people go look at MSRP and see the Genesis looks nearly as nice, is bigger with considerable power with a good interior and well, price wins.
I totally understand that. The Genesis is no 1/2 halfed effort like a G20 of years ago. This is the REAL DEAL.
Personally, I am buying the GS but when I see a Genesis, I see a damn good car.
08-18-08, 05:19 PM
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I know the purpose of the article was to try and impress how far Hyundai has come, but it really just made me more excited to drive my car. All of the great things they were saying about the GS simply made me smile!
08-18-08, 08:22 PM
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All of this talk about price and how that is why the Hyundai won, but if you remember, that is exactly what Lexus did in when they first developed the LS400 and it was going against the BMW 7 and Mercedes S Class. Hyundai is doing what Lexus did (minus the dealer network) 20 years later.
08-18-08, 08:34 PM
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All of this talk about price and how that is why the Hyundai won, but if you remember, that is exactly what Lexus did in when they first developed the LS400 and it was going against the BMW 7 and Mercedes S Class. Hyundai is doing what Lexus did (minus the dealer network) 20 years later.
The Genesis is not clearly superior to its competition how the LS was but its very comparable to it, with the price being a major factor.