I hope no one posting on here

 

lol, wiki can be used as references sometimes, but by no means they are facts or truths. you should still use judgment

RXSF, agreed with all what you said. that's why i never say much about gas mileage or power of 4, that's not the point. you brought up the exact point

 

let me add a little more to this.

if the dedicated lexus hybrid next year pairs a 4 cyl with electric motor, then that would still be acceptable and would be a big hit. most probably though, its going to be the old 3.0 or a detuned 2.5 from the IS.

 

It depends on the 4 cylinder engine. A 300 HP Turbocharged I4 with 250 ft lbs of torque IMHO screams its worth the premium over say the IS250 2.5L V6 DI engine with 201HP. The only people that care about the engine prestige is the magazines and internet folks. Buyers clearly show they mostly are interested in the brand itself. That is why the lesser engine option is almost always the best seller. Normal history shows that its the V6 version over the V8, but in the case like the C Class when the 4 cylinder was available, it was the 4 cylinder that was the better seller. My opinion is people will buy the car because of the brand, and not the engine, and in fact most buyers will actually opt to buy the lesser engine.

Times are changing. If today a hybrid could be considered a luxury why not a high tech 4 cylinder? In fact, how would people feel if there were a high tech 4 cylinder hybrid engine offered by Lexus or other luxury makers? I'm one that believes a hybrid should be primarily about fuel economy, so these V8 hybrids are not really my cup of tea.

 

oh rubbish - we were saying the same crap about V8's not long ago -- "oh, it has to have a V8...blah blah blah"

 

You must not have driven many GM vehicles with a pushrod 3800 v6 or some of the Ford and GMs v8 I have driven like what the had in the Chevy Caprice, Muscle cars, Crown Victorias, or the Dodge V6 in the older Intrepids and the Ford and Chevy pickups I have driven. Talk about some rough noisy(not in a good way) v6/v8 engines which can't even compare to a modern Honda/Acura and Toyota 4 cylinder in smoothness and quietness. Not all v8 and v6 are the same but most offered in luxury cars and Hondas/Toyotas are very smooth and smoother then most 4 cylinders.

 

LOL! Yep, you're right, I should have been more specific and stayed within the class of Lexus/Toyota/Honda engines.

 

I wanna add something, Remember what Lexus is? It is all about refinement, smoothness, and quietness.
I4, or any 4 cyclinders can't do the same job as 6/8/12,
see how Lexus has dump I6 motors and change it to V6 in their lineup?
Because V6 is more quiet and smooth than I6.
The root for Lexus.

 

i don't see any reason why a 4 cyl. has the "cheap" stigma in the days of modern engine management and variable geometry, twin scroll, ball bearing turbos. hellmy 4 cyl talon makes more hp and torque than my lexus and gets better gas mileage too, and it's basically stock.
with proper sized turbo, a good 4 cyl. can feel just like a big v6 or even a japanese v8.

 

actually, the inline 6 's are known to be smoother than a v6 due to the harmonics of the firing order. just like a v12 is smoother than a v8, because it's basically 2 inline 6's.

 

V shape engine offset the vibration from each cyclinders.
V shape engine also be more fuel effcient.
V shape engine saves spaces thus less engine room required.
The list can go on.

Don't get me wrong, I love I6, 2JZGTE baby!

 

ahhh, thank you!!

 

i dont' want to argue, but you're misinformed. I6's offset the vibration that a V6 can't.
the fuel efficiency thing, well, that's more dependent on head design, displacement, weight, and a million other things. the 2jz is actually a really old design. if toyota were to redesgn it using today's technology, i think it would equal their v6 in terms of efficiency and output.
saving space; yeah maybe.

 

BMW was known to make the best I6 motor, they are sooo goood!

 

not to mention the amount of tq from the i6 that v6 can't produce