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Old 02-09-12, 09:10 AM
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One of the things I couldn't help imagining, as I looked over the Subaru version at the D.C. Auto Show last week, is that, IMO, except for the small rear-seat, it going to be a superb modern-day replacement for the old Datsun 240Z of the early 70s. It's like the old Z in many ways......simple, uncluttered inside, good-looking, well-built, relatively inexpensive by today's standards, and (though I haven't test-driven it yet) promises to be fun to drive as well.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
One of the things I couldn't help imagining, as I looked over the Subaru version at the D.C. Auto Show last week, is that, IMO, except for the small rear-seat, it going to be a superb modern-day replacement for the old Datsun 240Z of the early 70s. It's like the old Z in many ways......simple, uncluttered inside, good-looking, well-built, relatively inexpensive by today's standards, and (though I haven't test-driven it yet) promises to be fun to drive as well.
Can I make review request on both FR-S and BRZ?
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Can I make review request on both FR-S and BRZ?
Sure. But they haven't been released yet in my area....the Subaru people at the show said probably a couple of months. I might (?) be able to combine them, though, into one review.....there are only minor trim, dash-layout, and equipment differences between the two. The Scion's shocks and suspension are tuned slightly different from the Subaru's, but that's probably the only significant one.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Sure. But they haven't been released yet in my area....the Subaru people at the show said probably a couple of months. I might (?) be able to combine them, though, into one review.....there are only minor trim, dash-layout, and equipment differences between the two. The Scion's shocks and suspension are tuned slightly different from the Subaru's, but that's probably the only significant one.
I heard they will be released sometime in May. Really looking forward to your review on both car. Yes, the differences are front, and springs and dampers rates.
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Yeah, I would like to see what's the difference on the suspension tuning. Agility VS. Stability.
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Geezus that deserves its own thread What a glowing review....

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Originally Posted by cino
Can I make review request on both FR-S and BRZ?
+1. Definitely looking forward to an mmarshall review!
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video review link no worky for me.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
One of the things I couldn't help imagining, as I looked over the Subaru version at the D.C. Auto Show last week, is that, IMO, except for the small rear-seat, it going to be a superb modern-day replacement for the old Datsun 240Z of the early 70s. It's like the old Z in many ways......simple, uncluttered inside, good-looking, well-built, relatively inexpensive by today's standards, and (though I haven't test-driven it yet) promises to be fun to drive as well.
That is a good comparison. I always wondered why Nissan never did a modern version of the 240Z. The 370Z and GTR are nice, but different ...
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Some people are so caught up on tire brands and compounds...the 86/BRZ/FRS comes standard with Prius Spec 215/45/17 Michelin Primacy HP tires...and it handles WELL!
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Originally Posted by flipside909
Some people are so caught up on tire brands and compounds...the 86/BRZ/FRS comes standard with Prius Spec 215/45/17 Michelin Primacy HP tires...and it handles WELL!
That's partly because the Prius now has considerably more aggressive wheels/tires (and suspension) than in past-versions. I can remember, not long ago, when driving a Prius was like Humpty-Dumpty....tires would squeal on any real cornering, and it would roll like a beach-ball.
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thanks whoster - AWESOME video and best new car from toyota in over a decade.
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Originally Posted by flipside909
Some people are so caught up on tire brands and compounds...the 86/BRZ/FRS comes standard with Prius Spec 215/45/17 Michelin Primacy HP tires...and it handles WELL!
That tire is used in sport package and is summer tire. It's really good.
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