Toyota/Subaru/Scion Lightweight Sports Car: Toyota GT86, Subaru BRZ, Scion FRS!
12-30-11, 12:18 AM
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12-30-11, 01:25 AM
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As I've mentioned in Club4AG, this car is not bare-bones enough. I've been on Club4AG longer than I've been on here and I used to drive a AE86 back in college.
I'm all about less is more. I don't care for Sat/Nav or Digital climate controls. Traction control system needs to be totally defeatable; I wish Toyota could go back to cable throttle instead of drive-by-wire.
My post in Club4AG on 8-23-2011
I'm all about less is more. I don't care for Sat/Nav or Digital climate controls. Traction control system needs to be totally defeatable; I wish Toyota could go back to cable throttle instead of drive-by-wire.
My post in Club4AG on 8-23-2011
My suggestion for trim levels:
Base (A):
Power steering, locks
Manual windows, mirrors, seats
6MT, LSD, HIDs, fog lights
AC, radio/CD/USB/iPod connection
Convenience (B):
Base (A) + power windows, mirrors and whatever do-dads they want to add to the car
Track (C):
Base (A) + upgraded brakes, suspension, f+r spoilers <-- How I would take mine
Base (A):
Power steering, locks
Manual windows, mirrors, seats
6MT, LSD, HIDs, fog lights
AC, radio/CD/USB/iPod connection
Convenience (B):
Base (A) + power windows, mirrors and whatever do-dads they want to add to the car
Track (C):
Base (A) + upgraded brakes, suspension, f+r spoilers <-- How I would take mine
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12-30-11, 05:47 AM
#1939
As I've mentioned in Club4AG, this car is not bare-bones enough. I've been on Club4AG longer than I've been on here and I used to drive a AE86 back in college.
I'm all about less is more. I don't care for Sat/Nav or Digital climate controls. Traction control system needs to be totally defeatable; I wish Toyota could go back to cable throttle instead of drive-by-wire.
My post in Club4AG on 8-23-2011
I'm all about less is more. I don't care for Sat/Nav or Digital climate controls. Traction control system needs to be totally defeatable; I wish Toyota could go back to cable throttle instead of drive-by-wire.
My post in Club4AG on 8-23-2011
i actually like a lot that it has a lot of equipment.
nothing wrong with drive by wire and isnt vsc/trc completely defeatable? Yes it is.
12-30-11, 04:18 PM
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As I've mentioned in Club4AG, this car is not bare-bones enough. I've been on Club4AG longer than I've been on here and I used to drive a AE86 back in college.
I'm all about less is more. I don't care for Sat/Nav or Digital climate controls. Traction control system needs to be totally defeatable; I wish Toyota could go back to cable throttle instead of drive-by-wire.
My post in Club4AG on 8-23-2011
I'm all about less is more. I don't care for Sat/Nav or Digital climate controls. Traction control system needs to be totally defeatable; I wish Toyota could go back to cable throttle instead of drive-by-wire.
My post in Club4AG on 8-23-2011
Jeez, Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I do believe there will be a very stripped down version available in Japan, but I think even that will have power windows. it just wont work out cost wise.
-_- .. not sure if trolling.....
12-31-11, 01:48 AM
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LMAO all you want, my 22-year-old 240sx with manual windows, locks and mirrors don't give me any problems. I even replaced the automatic seatbelts with manual ones to cut down on electrical gremlins.
When I had my 89 maxima, I had to replace each POWER window regulator at least once. The car was less than 10 years old at the time.
My 04 IS300? I've already had to replace a POWER lock actuator under warranty. Car was 5 years old.
I tend to hang on to cars longer than most people on here, so yes, I like to have as little electrical problems in cars as possible.
Now if I could find a set of manual front seats from a 2001 IS300 . . .
When I had my 89 maxima, I had to replace each POWER window regulator at least once. The car was less than 10 years old at the time.
My 04 IS300? I've already had to replace a POWER lock actuator under warranty. Car was 5 years old.
I tend to hang on to cars longer than most people on here, so yes, I like to have as little electrical problems in cars as possible.
Now if I could find a set of manual front seats from a 2001 IS300 . . .
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12-31-11, 04:19 AM
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LMAO all you want, my 22-year-old 240sx with manual windows, locks and mirrors don't give me any problems. I even replaced the automatic seatbelts with manual ones to cut down on electrical gremlins.
When I had my 89 maxima, I had to replace each POWER window regulator at least once. The car was less than 10 years old at the time.
My 04 IS300? I've already had to replace a POWER lock actuator under warranty. Car was 5 years old.
I tend to hang on to cars longer than most people on here, so yes, I like to have as little electrical problems in cars as possible.
Now if I could find a set of manual front seats from a 2001 IS300 . . .
When I had my 89 maxima, I had to replace each POWER window regulator at least once. The car was less than 10 years old at the time.
My 04 IS300? I've already had to replace a POWER lock actuator under warranty. Car was 5 years old.
I tend to hang on to cars longer than most people on here, so yes, I like to have as little electrical problems in cars as possible.
Now if I could find a set of manual front seats from a 2001 IS300 . . .
12-31-11, 04:57 AM
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LMAO all you want, my 22-year-old 240sx with manual windows, locks and mirrors don't give me any problems. I even replaced the automatic seatbelts with manual ones to cut down on electrical gremlins.
When I had my 89 maxima, I had to replace each POWER window regulator at least once. The car was less than 10 years old at the time.
My 04 IS300? I've already had to replace a POWER lock actuator under warranty. Car was 5 years old.
I tend to hang on to cars longer than most people on here, so yes, I like to have as little electrical problems in cars as possible.
Now if I could find a set of manual front seats from a 2001 IS300 . . .
When I had my 89 maxima, I had to replace each POWER window regulator at least once. The car was less than 10 years old at the time.
My 04 IS300? I've already had to replace a POWER lock actuator under warranty. Car was 5 years old.
I tend to hang on to cars longer than most people on here, so yes, I like to have as little electrical problems in cars as possible.
Now if I could find a set of manual front seats from a 2001 IS300 . . .
01-01-12, 11:05 AM
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http://www.motortrend.com/future/spi...uring_testing/
Caught! Turbocharged Scion FR-S Prototype Spotted During Testing
Caught! Turbocharged Scion FR-S Prototype Spotted During Testing
Was Scion's Drift Team Testing Its New Toy?
Sounds good, but will it get more power? That’s been the No. 1 followup question since long before joint Toyota/Subaru effort that became the U.S. bound 2013 Scion FR-S (and its Subaru BRZ twin) rear drive sports coupe ever saw the light of day.
Reading the tea leaves after our recent drives of the FR-S and BRZ, it’s all but certain that the Subaru-derived 200-horsepower 2.0-liter four-cylinder 4U-GSE boxer will eventually be boosted to deliver more horses, but when?
If the FR-S prototype that our very own Web production manager Kirill Ougarov recently spotted at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca is any indication, it looks like it won’t be long. Ougarov, who shot the photos and video, indicated that the white car was 'definitely' turbocharged -- turn up the sound as it drifts briefly around the corner and you’ll likely agree.
Speaking of drifting, given that both the white-winged car and the car behind it were FR-S models, it stands to reason that this could be the Scion drift team getting in some testing before the 2012 season. Scion is heavy into drifting and has campaigned a tC modified to rear drive specifically for the team.
It’s an absolute no brainer for the FR-S to take over as the Scion drift team star, but it stands to reason that in order to really get its drift on, the FR-S would need more power.
Whatever the reason for its presence at Mazda Raceway, the FR-S turbo sighting is good news for drift fans and all those who already can’t wait for a higher spec version of the FR-S. Given that the base FR-S and BRZ won’t be on sale in base form until mid-year, we wouldn't expect any turbocharged production model until close to the end of 2012.
Sounds good, but will it get more power? That’s been the No. 1 followup question since long before joint Toyota/Subaru effort that became the U.S. bound 2013 Scion FR-S (and its Subaru BRZ twin) rear drive sports coupe ever saw the light of day.
Reading the tea leaves after our recent drives of the FR-S and BRZ, it’s all but certain that the Subaru-derived 200-horsepower 2.0-liter four-cylinder 4U-GSE boxer will eventually be boosted to deliver more horses, but when?
If the FR-S prototype that our very own Web production manager Kirill Ougarov recently spotted at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca is any indication, it looks like it won’t be long. Ougarov, who shot the photos and video, indicated that the white car was 'definitely' turbocharged -- turn up the sound as it drifts briefly around the corner and you’ll likely agree.
Speaking of drifting, given that both the white-winged car and the car behind it were FR-S models, it stands to reason that this could be the Scion drift team getting in some testing before the 2012 season. Scion is heavy into drifting and has campaigned a tC modified to rear drive specifically for the team.
It’s an absolute no brainer for the FR-S to take over as the Scion drift team star, but it stands to reason that in order to really get its drift on, the FR-S would need more power.
Whatever the reason for its presence at Mazda Raceway, the FR-S turbo sighting is good news for drift fans and all those who already can’t wait for a higher spec version of the FR-S. Given that the base FR-S and BRZ won’t be on sale in base form until mid-year, we wouldn't expect any turbocharged production model until close to the end of 2012.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/09/s...-detroit-2012/
Scion Racing/GReddy FR-S race car
Scion Racing/GReddy FR-S race car
Scion today unveiled its Scion Racing/GReddy FR-S race car during a press conference at the 2012 North American International Auto Show. The FR-S will be competing in the 2012 Formula DRIFT series with veteran driver Ken Gushi behind the wheel.
The 600-horsepower FR-S race car is the result of a collaboration between Scion Racing and GReddy, a performance-products company that has been involved with Toyota and racing for over twenty years.
The race car is inspired by the 2013 Scion FR-S, a compact rear-wheel-drive sports car that will go on sale in the spring of 2012. The high-performance coupe is the fifth model to join the Scion family.
"First 86" Program
In response to a large volume of FR-S hand-raisers, Scion also announced that it will launch a special program called "First 86." The program will give 86 lucky people the opportunity to be among the first to own the Scion FR-S. The selected 86 owners will take delivery of their car before it goes on-sale to the general public. Starting Jan. 12 at Noon EST, FR-S enthusiasts will have 8 hours and 6 minutes to submit their request at www.ScionFirst86.com.
BeSpoke Infotainment Audio System
Scion also announced that its 2013 FR-S will be the first car to offer a connected infotainment audio system called BeSpoke, powered by Pioneer's Zypr™. Scion's BeSpoke aims to offer a higher level of connectivity with features that drivers have been asking for such as access to a wide variety of personalized content and services.
"Beginning last year, all Scion models come standard with Bluetooth® Hands-Free and HD Radio™ Technology," said Jack Hollis, Vice President Scion. "Scion's new BeSpoke system will take in-car technology to the next level, offering owners the ability to be more connected."
2013 Scion FR-S
The FR-S – which stands for Front-engine, Rear-wheel drive, Sport – is Scion's definition of an authentic rear-wheel-drive sports car with exceptionally balanced performance and handling, compelling style, flexible utility and surprising MPG.
"Serving as a laboratory for Toyota, Scion is always experimenting with new things," Hollis said. "The brand is iconic with the xB, adrenalized by the tC, and groundbreaking with the iQ. The FR-S will no doubt serve as the halo car, expanding Scion into a new dimension of driving performance."
Inspired by the AE86 Toyota Corolla, the FR-S is designed around the core goal of achieving "Pure Balance," which begins with the strategic use of the world's only flat boxer engine in a front-engine, rear-wheel drive configuration. The engine's compact size and flat shape allow it to be mounted mid-ship and extremely low, giving the car a dynamically favorable front-to-rear weight ratio of 53:47, and a low center of gravity comparable to some exotic supercars.
The FR-S's 2.0-liter, naturally aspirated four-cylinder engine is the result of a joint development between Toyota and Subaru. The partnership begins by combining Subaru's newly developed horizontally opposed engine and Toyota's cutting-edge D-4S injection system, which incorporates both direct and port injection. The D-4S system, partnered with a high 12.5:1 compression ratio, results in an impressive 200 horsepower and 151 pound-feet of torque.
The flat-four mates with either a six-speed manual or a six-speed automatic transmission. The manual offers quick, precise shifts with a short-throw; while the automatic transmission features aggressive up shifts and sporty rev-matched down shifts that are initiated by steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters. Power is transferred to the pavement via a limited-slip differential.
The idea of "Pure Balance" is further realized by the FR-S's lightweight design and compact size. The combination allows the car to be quick and nimble into and out of corners, with dynamic maneuverability and confident handling. The coupe's weight is kept to a minimum by utilizing an aluminum hood, a solid roof, and by featuring a trunk design instead of a hatchback.
The FR-S's interior features a 2+2 seating configuration that is designed with both form and function in mind. The front seats are mounted extremely low and are comfortable yet assertive, while the rear seat folds down flat, creating flexible space. The large center-mounted tachometer is the focus of the three-gauge cluster, keeping the driver informed of the engine's vitals. Speed is monitored by both digital and analog gauges.
The 600-horsepower FR-S race car is the result of a collaboration between Scion Racing and GReddy, a performance-products company that has been involved with Toyota and racing for over twenty years.
The race car is inspired by the 2013 Scion FR-S, a compact rear-wheel-drive sports car that will go on sale in the spring of 2012. The high-performance coupe is the fifth model to join the Scion family.
"First 86" Program
In response to a large volume of FR-S hand-raisers, Scion also announced that it will launch a special program called "First 86." The program will give 86 lucky people the opportunity to be among the first to own the Scion FR-S. The selected 86 owners will take delivery of their car before it goes on-sale to the general public. Starting Jan. 12 at Noon EST, FR-S enthusiasts will have 8 hours and 6 minutes to submit their request at www.ScionFirst86.com.
BeSpoke Infotainment Audio System
Scion also announced that its 2013 FR-S will be the first car to offer a connected infotainment audio system called BeSpoke, powered by Pioneer's Zypr™. Scion's BeSpoke aims to offer a higher level of connectivity with features that drivers have been asking for such as access to a wide variety of personalized content and services.
"Beginning last year, all Scion models come standard with Bluetooth® Hands-Free and HD Radio™ Technology," said Jack Hollis, Vice President Scion. "Scion's new BeSpoke system will take in-car technology to the next level, offering owners the ability to be more connected."
2013 Scion FR-S
The FR-S – which stands for Front-engine, Rear-wheel drive, Sport – is Scion's definition of an authentic rear-wheel-drive sports car with exceptionally balanced performance and handling, compelling style, flexible utility and surprising MPG.
"Serving as a laboratory for Toyota, Scion is always experimenting with new things," Hollis said. "The brand is iconic with the xB, adrenalized by the tC, and groundbreaking with the iQ. The FR-S will no doubt serve as the halo car, expanding Scion into a new dimension of driving performance."
Inspired by the AE86 Toyota Corolla, the FR-S is designed around the core goal of achieving "Pure Balance," which begins with the strategic use of the world's only flat boxer engine in a front-engine, rear-wheel drive configuration. The engine's compact size and flat shape allow it to be mounted mid-ship and extremely low, giving the car a dynamically favorable front-to-rear weight ratio of 53:47, and a low center of gravity comparable to some exotic supercars.
The FR-S's 2.0-liter, naturally aspirated four-cylinder engine is the result of a joint development between Toyota and Subaru. The partnership begins by combining Subaru's newly developed horizontally opposed engine and Toyota's cutting-edge D-4S injection system, which incorporates both direct and port injection. The D-4S system, partnered with a high 12.5:1 compression ratio, results in an impressive 200 horsepower and 151 pound-feet of torque.
The flat-four mates with either a six-speed manual or a six-speed automatic transmission. The manual offers quick, precise shifts with a short-throw; while the automatic transmission features aggressive up shifts and sporty rev-matched down shifts that are initiated by steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters. Power is transferred to the pavement via a limited-slip differential.
The idea of "Pure Balance" is further realized by the FR-S's lightweight design and compact size. The combination allows the car to be quick and nimble into and out of corners, with dynamic maneuverability and confident handling. The coupe's weight is kept to a minimum by utilizing an aluminum hood, a solid roof, and by featuring a trunk design instead of a hatchback.
The FR-S's interior features a 2+2 seating configuration that is designed with both form and function in mind. The front seats are mounted extremely low and are comfortable yet assertive, while the rear seat folds down flat, creating flexible space. The large center-mounted tachometer is the focus of the three-gauge cluster, keeping the driver informed of the engine's vitals. Speed is monitored by both digital and analog gauges.