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Old 09-08-07, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
GS430 3,738
CTS 3,874lbs

GS430 weighs 135lbs less
GS350 weigs 175lbs less
IS350 weighs 350lbs less

the GS also comes standard w/leather, power telescoping steering, and sunroof.

The CTS needs to go on a serious diet.
This has already been discussed... the new CTS is BIGGER than the GS, easily explaining a mere 175lbs.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
This has already been discussed... the new CTS is BIGGER than the GS, easily explaining a mere 175lbs.
You aren't taking into account the standard features the GS has over the CTS. Sunroof, leather seating, power telescoping steering, heated/ventilated front seats, power passenger seat, 10 speaker audio, knee airbag, rear passenger torso airbags, wood veneer, foglamps...

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Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
You aren't taking into account the standard features the GS has over the CTS. Sunroof, leather seating, power telescoping steering, heated/ventilated front seats, power passenger seat, 10 speaker audio, knee airbag, rear passenger torso airbags, wood veneer, foglamps...

The new CTS at 3800lb also has a lot more sound deadening and high quality materials. That probably weighs it down much more than a few options that are missing from the base model. All cars are heavier these days...the IS350 is a PIG compared to the last gen IS300 yet its about the same size. Lets look at it this way, the CTS at 3800 lbs isn't nearly as bad as the G37 at 3800lbs
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I will go check it out for myself....I hope you're right about the interior.
No please, be my guest - go for a full review. Go through all of the paces. This wasn't really a review on my part - just some observations. I'd like to see what impression you walk away with after you've put it under the microscope.

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The last CTS-V was more or less an upmarket GTO....not literally, but there were many similarities.
The only thing I can think of that they have in common is the LS2 V8 (which is also found in several other GM vehicles). I think possibly the transmissions were fairly similar as well, but GM pretty much uses the same few automatic and manual transmissions in all of their RWD vehicles.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
The new CTS at 3800lb also has a lot more sound deadening and high quality materials. That probably weighs it down much more than a few options that are missing from the base model. All cars are heavier these days...the IS350 is a PIG compared to the last gen IS300 yet its about the same size. Lets look at it this way, the CTS at 3800 lbs isn't nearly as bad as the G37 at 3800lbs
actually the Cadillac is closer to 3900lbs and the G37 weighs 3597lbs w/auto and 3650 w/manual.
the 335i sedan 3605 lbs. The IS350 in reality weighs less than its competition

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Originally Posted by Threxx


The only thing I can think of that they have in common is the LS2 V8 (which is also found in several other GM vehicles). I think possibly the transmissions were fairly similar as well, but GM pretty much uses the same few automatic and manual transmissions in all of their RWD vehicles.
The current CTS-V is also a better handler than the GTO (GTO oversteers too much). Both cars do share the same engine & 6 speed tranny.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
actually the Cadillac is closer to 3900lbs and the G37 weighs 3597lbs w/auto and 3650 w/manual.
the 335i sedan 3605 lbs. The IS350 in reality weighs less than its competition
But should the CTS be compared to those cars or cars in which it is of a similar size to? Is weight per price really a worthwhile discussion or is weight per size at least a little more significant?
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