Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

Can Maybach Be Mended ? Über-CLS may be next from Maybach ...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 1, 2007 | 05:15 PM
  #1  
Gojirra99's Avatar
Gojirra99
Thread Starter
CL Community Team
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 30,277
Likes: 354
From: Canada
Default Can Maybach Be Mended ? Über-CLS may be next from Maybach ...


Can Maybach Be Mended ?

The plan was nothing if not ambitious: Dust off a long-dead nameplate with zero recognition, take on Rolls-Royce for the title of Best--or at least Most Expensive--Car in the World, and sell about 1000 examples a year to the superrich.

The Maybach arrived for the 2004 model year and very quickly proved just how ambitious that plan was. Particularly the last part. The brand sold a grand total of 146 cars in the United States last year and 152 the year before--about one-third of Rolls-Royce's U.S. sales. Uh-oh.

"Although it took a while to sink in, everyone involved knows now that it's not the brand that's at fault," claims one Maybach source. "It's the current product in general and the design in particular. The Exelero show car did more for us than all the tweaks to the 57/62 series combined. Recently, we presented our management a couple of promising concepts, among them a four-seat luxury coupe. But at the moment, most of our work is undercover. You just can't fire a bunch of people at Chrysler and simultaneously spend millions on a new Maybach."

One possible short-term boost could come from a Maybach edition of the Mercedes-Benz GL-class SUV. Don't laugh. Cheap to build and expensive to buy, the Maybach GL would be the brand's first real moneymaker. The plan is to give it a Maybach grille, new bumpers, a revised rear end, more brightwork, and wider wheels. The cabin would be upgraded with top-grade leather and wood and rear lounge seats like those in the 57/62. Some 1500 vehicles would be sold, but only outside of Europe.

Ultimately, however, everyone agrees that what Maybach really needs is a new mid-size model priced in the $225,000-to-$275,000 bracket. "The best bet is a stylish and powerful four-door, four-seat coupe--kind of a bigger CLS for the very rich," says our friend in product planning.

That project is based on the S-class. The design is brand-new, and it's said to be much more convincing than Maybach's first effort. Unusual elements include unique exterior lighting that emits a soft glow accentuating certain body contours, a variable-tint glass roof, and a gauge cluster whose display changes based on driving conditions. For propulsion, engineers favor the 5.5-liter turbo V-12, which can make up to 600 hp and more than 700 lb-ft of torque.

But the big question is whether management will pour still more cash into Maybach--or will this nameplate be allowed to slip back into the past ?
source : automobilemag
Reply
Old May 1, 2007 | 05:28 PM
  #2  
JessePS's Avatar
JessePS
Lexus Test Driver
CL Folding 25,000
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 8,349
Likes: 0
From: QC/FRANCE
Default

I thought Maybach wanted too go into the SUV market? Use the MB GL and turn it into a much more upscale SUV.

Whatever Maybach does, it will be a hit thats for sure.
Reply
Old May 1, 2007 | 05:49 PM
  #3  
vraa's Avatar
vraa
CL Folding Team Starter
CL Folding 1,000,000
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,669
Likes: 359
From: TX
Default

The Excelero is really old news.

From first release, they said it was a one-off car, I'd hate to see Mercedes actually start making those.

Kinda hurts you to find out that your exclusive dream car will be in the garages of quite a few folks.
Reply
Old May 1, 2007 | 10:14 PM
  #4  
lighthalo's Avatar
lighthalo
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 977
Likes: 0
From: florida
Default

Originally Posted by vraa
The Excelero is really old news.

From first release, they said it was a one-off car, I'd hate to see Mercedes actually start making those.
i think i remember hearing on a tv show about the maybach (i think it was on top gear) that they would make any one an excelero that is willing to pay the 8,000,000 price tag.. so i guess as of right now, its still a one off...
Reply
Old May 1, 2007 | 10:38 PM
  #5  
GFerg's Avatar
GFerg
Speaks French in Russian
CL Folding 25,000
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,397
Likes: 100
From: What is G?
Default

Future models sounds cool. The Maybach truck has to be a huge improvement and must look incredibly different than the GL in order to move a lot of units IMO. One of the biggest beefs with Maybach seems to be that they look like an S-class but cost 200-300K more.
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 08:28 AM
  #6  
GFerg's Avatar
GFerg
Speaks French in Russian
CL Folding 25,000
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,397
Likes: 100
From: What is G?
Default

http://www.autospies.com/news/Rememb...ndering-15724/

Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 08:43 AM
  #7  
Gojirra99's Avatar
Gojirra99
Thread Starter
CL Community Team
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 30,277
Likes: 354
From: Canada
Default

why did they put a 3 point star on the hood of a Maybach rendering lol ?
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 08:48 AM
  #8  
PhilipMSPT's Avatar
PhilipMSPT
Cycle Savant
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 21,528
Likes: 9
From: In rehab...
Default

"Ultimately, however, everyone agrees that what Maybach really needs is a new mid-size model priced in the $225,000-to-$275,000 bracket. "The best bet is a stylish and powerful four-door, four-seat coupe--kind of a bigger CLS for the very rich," says our friend in product planning."
So, they want to make the Rapide?
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 09:11 AM
  #9  
GS3Tek's Avatar
GS3Tek
CL Community Team
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 12,390
Likes: 184
From: so cal
Default

Originally Posted by Robarapta
why did they put a 3 point star on the hood of a Maybach rendering lol ?
That photoshopper didn't realize maybach doesn't have a star on the hood

That somehow looks better for the next S(550).
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 10:16 AM
  #10  
Gojirra99's Avatar
Gojirra99
Thread Starter
CL Community Team
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 30,277
Likes: 354
From: Canada
Default

Originally Posted by GS3Tek
That somehow looks better for the next S(550)
Except they need more head room for the back seats of a S-Class
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 06:53 PM
  #11  
rai's Avatar
rai
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 620
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Default

They over estimated the demand for $400K cars.

I think Porsche and MB with the CGT and the SLR as well as the Maybach saw something that wasn't there.

I think they thought something like this: "No one is buying $400K cars b/c there are no cars to chose from, Just a few hundred units from RR, Bentley, Lambo (etc..). If there was more cars, there will be more buyers"

The Field of Dreams

The sweet spot is the $150K range with the R8, 911 turbo, Vantage (etc.) which I think can sell a good number.

I don't think the Maybach coupe will be the answer. Its assuming the same thing, more $400K cars will lead to more sales.

These cars cost more than most peoples houses.

Last edited by rai; May 31, 2007 at 07:24 PM.
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 07:36 PM
  #12  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

No its a waste and let it die..
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
GFerg
Car Chat
9
Mar 12, 2014 08:13 AM
LexFather
Car Chat
16
May 30, 2012 01:32 PM
Gojirra99
Car Chat
47
Mar 17, 2008 02:03 PM
LexFather
Car Chat
6
Dec 31, 2007 05:07 AM
LexFather
Car Chat
2
Apr 9, 2005 10:26 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:52 PM.