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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mkorsu
Nope. That distinction goes to the 1948 Tucker.
If only he made the deadline....
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
Lexus will probably be the first to put full LED headlights in production.

Doesn't the new Audi R8 have full LED headlights?
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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And if it fails, you have no control over either putting out too much light or not enough. Yeah, I think they should leave this one alone.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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now this is going to help out alot

one thing all manufactures should have this on all their models (as standard)
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
Didn't GM come up with this auto-dim for the high beams before? I think it was on Cadillacs. Can anyone confirm?
You're right! GM offered the "Autronic Eye" from 1952 into the mid sixties on Cadillacs and briefly on Buicks and other GM products (although it was rare outside the Cadillac line). It was a streamlined pod a bit smaller than a golf ball that resided on the dashboard to the left of the instrument cluster, where it could peer down the road in search on oncoming headlights.


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The forward-facing end of the pod was a lens that focused light from a rather narrow angle on a photocell which, using a black box full of vacuum tube circuitry and a relay under the hood to automatically dim the headlights when the light level from straight ahead exceeded a threshold value set by the driver with a **** on the back of the pod. It actually worked pretty well, but was failure prone - as vacuum tubes and paper capacitors were unhappy in the underhood environment. My uncle had them on several of his Caddys and as a kid, I thought this was pretty cool technology. Still do.

I hope this is a technology whose time has finally come . . . back!

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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
Didn't GM come up with this auto-dim for the high beams before? I think it was on Cadillacs. Can anyone confirm?
Again I believe it was Lincoln (although caddy may had done it as well) to do this I think it was an option on their 197? Mark??? I just remember seeing this thing on the hood next the A pillar and being told what it was.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeper408
Doesn't the new Audi R8 have full LED headlights?
No, the R8 only has full LED DTRL and the usual bi-xenon headlights.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Wonder if Lexus will be the first one? They typically are first with new gadgets like the such...
I'd probably say Mercedes or BMW will use it first, but Lexus will make it better and probably cost less.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
You're correct. Lincoln was the first brand to use HID in their 1995 Mark VIII. A good three years ahead of lexus and in terms of technology, 3 years is a long time. However, the original ballasts and bulbs were bulkier and dare I say weirder
Actually, BMW was the first brand to offer xenon headlights. It was an option available for the E34 7-Series.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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gah you're right. the 7-series were the first to use HID, but the Lincoln was the first to use DC HID.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
gah you're right. the 7-series were the first to use HID, but the Lincoln was the first to use DC HID.
What would be cool is if there was a dark intersection on a country or such, the headlights would spread out to illuminate the sides of the intersection then after you passed the intersection, it can narrow down to its original beam pattern.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeper408
If only he made the deadline....
Or have the "Big Three" pay for legislation against him.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jewcano
You are absolutely right. I completely forgot about the Tucker. Somehow that center light was connected to the steering and when you turned the wheel it would turn the light. Good eye
Yeah. It was somehow connected to the steering wheel, aiming the center light along with the turning of the wheels. I love the story behind the Tucker!
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by genearch
Nope, "sort of" beat to the punch by Audi in the A8, it's DTRL's are LED
Originally Posted by sleeper408
Doesn't the new Audi R8 have full LED headlights?
The Lexus LED will be a revolutionary system. The LED will actually be used for low beam duty. Making an LED DRL isn't a challange as you can do it with standard surface-mounted LED if you wanted to. However, the LED low beam in the LS600h will be the next HID. Most DRL only has to light up enough light to let the other driver know the car is moving. The LS600h's low beam will have to project actual light output onto the road at a longer distance.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Leds are overrated, they look bright, but they dont emit as much light as regular bulbs.
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