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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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It seems all that glitters are not gold in terms of BMW sales in the US. This article reveals that BMW utilises high incentives in selling their cars especially when compared to their german rivals. Apparently the investors are not impressed despite a 15% growth in sales in february.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...51/1148/AUTO01
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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I have wonder all along about the lease deals ...
BMW lauds sales prospects, but investors worry about U.S. incentives


GENEVA, Switzerland -- German luxury car maker BMW used its 15 minutes with the media at the international car show here, to point out its increased sales target for 2007, and take credit for its attempts to improve fuel efficiency with high tech solutions.

Unfortunately, investors are not seeing the company in such a favourable light, and are fretting about its prospects in the U.S., where sales seem to be under pressure.

Investment banker Dresdner Kleinwort said BMW incentives in the U.S. are causing concern.

"BMW's discounting practice in the U.S. leaves us speechless. Since May 2006, BMW has offered structurally higher incentives compared to its peers and there appears to be no light at the end of the tunnel," Frankfurt, Germany-based Dresdner Kleinwort said in a report.

"Incentives stand at an average of $4,125 per vehicle, which is about 60 percent higher compared to Mercedes ($2,573) and Audi ($2,607). Most of these discounts are related to BMW's active move into competitive lease deals," the report said.

BMW achieved record global sales in 2006 of 1.37 million vehicles and expects to beat that again in 2007 with more than 1.4 million BMWs, Minis and Rolls Royces sold.

Morgan Stanley said BMW can expect tougher competition from Porsche and Audi, and agreed that it is being forced to increase incentives to sell its cars in America, and faces a massive challenge from new emissions regulations.

Morgan Stanley cut its rating on BMW shares to "underweight" from "overweight," and recommended investors buy DaimlerChrysler or VW shares instead.

It also suggested that BMW may have to seek an alliance partner to shore up its future.

"We believe BMW may be in the early chapters of a restructuring story - are investors prepared for this? Looking longer term, we believe BMW management (and the Quandt family) must consider a strategic alliance with another automotive partner to surmount the challenges of scale economies, geographic diversification and share access to new power-train technologies and emission solutions," said Morgan.

Morgan cut its BMW earnings forecasts by 5 to 6 percent for 2007 and 2008, mainly because of higher incentives in the U.S. and the weak dollar. Longer term threats include the introduction of the Porsche Panamera in 2009, while Lexus and Nissan's Infiniti are gearing up for a sales push in Europe.

At today's press conference in Geneva, BMW board chairman Norbert Reithofer said the company is making important progress using technology to improve fuel economy. The bottom of the range 1-series and the 5-Series will soon have regenerative braking, which conserves energy when the car is being braked, or is freewheeling. These cars will also include so-called "stop-start" systems, which automatically switch off the engine when the car is stationary, and reignite it when the accelerator is pressed.

But Dresdner Kleinwort is not impressed.

"Even discounts on the new X5 (large SUV) are back at $4,490. The 7 Series is supported with $11,345 (Mercedes S class $3,711). Against this diluted pricing level, a 15 percent increase in February unit sales (in the U.S.) is meaningless in our view.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Holy crap, 11K on the 7 series... Well, I always said BMW's are overpriced, but I guess if they overprice them and then sell for a lot less then it's ok.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Robarapta
I have wonder all along about the lease deals ...
indeed, i always wonder how the lease deals go with the bmw, coz' it doesn't go as in line with the price of cars.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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If BMW cars were not so overpriced then they would not need these high incentives to get their targeted sales numbers. The worst thing is is that the "base" cars come pretty bare without many things you get in much lower priced cars standard and you end up getting screwed over by paying a fortune for options that should be standard. Maybe it is a problem with dealers refusing to deal on their cars and keeping them near MSRP and customers saying forget it and getting something better priced. BMW probrably needs to talk to the dealerships more on their business practices or they need to lower the invoice and MSRP on their cars and have things standard that should be standard instead of charging so much for those "options". That is probrably why that buying from the factory in Germany at a reduced cost is catching on. And even after you overpay so much for BMWs you get a vehicle that is going to be in the shop more then it should and it will be a wise decision to get rid of it once it is out of warranty.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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their lease deals are just AMAZING
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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BMW needs to get rid of the i-Drive (i stands for idiotic) system. It will see its sales pick up again without much incentive.

Also Chris Beagle really screwed up the BMW styling. A re-design is needed across the board.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Every single person I peronally know with a new BMW has/is leasing it. The deals must be good.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:41 AM
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Some of my BMW friends wish they'd use those incentives down here.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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The lease deals are awesome, I opted for one. I see lease a win-win for BMW. Since they have a relatively good resale value, when people return their leased cars, they can sell these cars CPO and make even more money. I don't feel they are overpriced. Infiniti owners can argue Lexus is overpriced as well.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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It's a win-win for people who wants a BMW for sure, but not necessarily for BMW, as the sentiments of investors expressed in the article indicate.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Aren't they still posting record profit?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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They definitely need to work on the 7 series, that's for sure. It's ugly and unreliable, and sells poorly as a result (well, relative to the competition). I'd take an LS any day of the week if I were in that market. To some extent their success/failure rests on the 3-series way too much (and to a lesser extent the 5); kind of like Infiniti with the G or how Lexus used to be with SUVs. It'll be interesting to see if they can break out of that. It's already starting (imo); the price of the 3-series, despite it being high, went up only very slighty from e46 to e90/e92. I think the same thing will happen with the 5 refresh and 7 redesign.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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The huge incentives are not new, and this is one reason that's helping to drive up sales.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Well, look at it this way - a 7 series defenately costs less to build than LS, yet it's priced higher than LS. So even if they knock off 11K to bring it closer to the LS, they are still making more money than LS without incentives.
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