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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Is the Camry set to get old and stuffy?
Popular sedan becoming this generation's Buick and Oldsmobile




For several years in the late 1970s and early 1980s, the Oldsmobile Cutlass was the best-selling car in America, boosted by popular designs, positive reviews and the perception of quality and reliability.

How times have changed. Today, the once-venerable General Motors brand lies defunct, phased out in 2004 after steadily declining sales. The Olds was killed by its image as old and stuffy, despite an attempt to revive it with a public relations campaign in the late 1980s that promised the new models were “not your father’s Oldsmobile.”

It’s a cautionary tale worth noting, especially for the Toyota Camry, the best-selling car in the United States for eight of the past nine years. Statistics compiled by consulting company Global Insight show that, up to the 2002 model year, the average age of U.S. buyers of Toyota’s popular sedan rose by one year for every year that passed. The brand is in danger of becoming outdated.

“This is the price you pay for making a connection with a generation,” said John Wolkonowicz, senior auto analyst for North America at Global Insight. Wolkonowicz notes that Toyota’s bread-and butter sedan, known for dependability and comfort, has made a solid connection with baby boomers, typically born between the mid-1940s and mid-1960s.

“Camry buyers are on average in their low to mid-50s, and if Toyota doesn’t change the trajectory ... the Camry will become the Oldsmobile or the Buick of 20 years from now,” he said. “Their customers will be the oldest Americans, who are dying out of the market every day. Toyota is adamant that they are not going to let this happen, but they may be powerless to change it.”

Brand changes aren’t always successful, despite the best marketing makeovers. But Toyota shouldn’t be underestimated, Wolkonowicz added.

Since the 1990s, the Camry sedan has transitioned from its boxy beginnings to a more athletic exterior, while retaining a reputation for reliability, affordability and good fuel economy. Toyota sold 450,000 Camrys in 2006, up nearly 4 percent from 2005, according to Autodata, and well ahead of the No. 2 Accord, which sold 354,000 units, a decline of about 4 percent.

Still, before the Camry came the Ford Taurus, which held the position as the nation’s best-selling car between 1992 and 1996, only to lose its perch at the top of the automotive tree to the Camry in 1997. Ford produced its last Taurus last year.

Jack Nerad, executive market analyst for Kelley Blue Book, which tracks the automotive industry, says there does seem to be a natural arc for a successful car brand. Older nameplates like Buick, Pontiac and Mercury are all struggling, he said, although none of them are showing signs of going away.

“But it’s interesting because a few years ago you would have added the Cadillac brand to the list of struggling brands, and now it is resurgent,” he said. “It has shown that a brand that is on its last legs can find a new market given the right product and the right marketing strategy. Thanks to the 300 sedan, Cadillac has a younger market; it has become youthful and edgy.”

Capturing the Generation X and Y demographics — generally speaking, those born after 1965 — is the aim of most carmakers, said Wolkonowicz. These consumers are more interested in BMWs than Camrys, he said, and many of them are buying premium models on the used market.

Toyota is working to capture this demographic with its lower-cost Scion brand. The initial Scions — the xA subcompact, the xB wagon, and to a lesser extent the tC sport wagon — received middling reviews. The next generation xB and the new xD, the successor to the xA, will be unveiled in next month at the Chicago Auto Show

My guess is these new models will yet again be steps along the way,” Wolkonowicz said. “In typical fashion, Toyota is taking it slow and easy and getting better and better with every step. Scion will not be an overnight success. Ultimately, they will be a success, given Toyota’s might and money — it will just take time.”

Scion certainly seems to be holding its own. In a year of declining sales, Scion’s sales were up 10.6 percent in 2006 over 2005, and its share of the light vehicle market rose to 1.04 percent from 0.92 percent a year earlier.

The second part of the Japanese carmaker's plan to capture younger consumers is to make the flagship Toyota brand more exciting by designing more expressive vehicles, adding emotion and horsepower, Wolkonowicz said.

“Toyota is known for reliability and good resale value," he said. "Toyota is a rational purchase — it’s for people who care about making a smart purchase decision. It doesn’t get the adrenaline flowing.

“So it remains to be seen what they can accomplish here. The car business is like fashion, and like the fashion business, brands carry cachet. They also carry baggage, especially for younger people. It depends on whether they think the new styles are cool.”

Early signs suggest Toyota’s plan to rejuvenate the Camry with a sportier, more aggressive design is working, according to Bill Kwong, a spokesperson for Toyota. He says company data show the median age for the base Camry CE model buyers declined from 55 to 48 from 2005 to 2006.

“Yes, the age of Camry drivers was starting to get older,” Kwong said. “They are very loyal, so every time they come back to buy a new one they get a little older. But we think the new data show our buyers’ ages are decreasing.”

But Toyota faces other challenges, including questions about quality. The automaker last year faced an issue of engine damage caused by oil sludge that nearly resulted in a class-action lawsuit. More recently, Toyota said it will recall 533,000 Tundra pickups and Sequoia sport utility vehicles because of potential steering problems. The quality issues have led some to ask if Toyota is stretching itself thin to capture more U.S. market share.

And the Camry is a tempting target for rivals. At the recent Detroit auto show, General Motors unveiled a drastically restyled 2008 Chevrolet Malibu, aimed directly at the midsize sedan market.

Honda showcased a concept coupe design for its top-selling Accord, and the company stands to benefit down the road if Toyota falters, according to Wolkonowicz.

Many car consumers see Honda and Toyota the two brands as interchangeable as Coke and Pepsi, he said. But unlike Toyota, Honda enjoys strong appeal among Generation X and Y drivers as well as among baby boomers, he said.

“They have the attention of everyone born after 1954, and that’s a great position to be in,” he said. “So the company could come out of this looking good as the decades pass. But given Toyota’s huge cash position I think they will have the wherewithal to deal with all this.”
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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IMO no. I believe the new generation has brought in a lot of younger buyers. Average age has gone down. Even the average age for the Avalon has gone down by about a decade or so if I recall correctly.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:55 AM
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300 sedan? Cadillac?
tC sport wagon?
What?
Get your facts right.

I don't think the Camry will go away, people will always buy it for reliability (unless they start spontaneously combusting). They've even been edgier with the newest design.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:30 AM
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The Camry will never go away. That and the Corolla are basically the two toyotas that have lead Toyota to where they are today. As for the age factor, I dont really care because I'm never going to buy a camry
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
IMO no. I believe the new generation has brought in a lot of younger buyers. Average age has gone down. Even the average age for the Avalon has gone down by about a decade or so if I recall correctly.
Certainly nothing scientific here, but I've noticed the same thing. I think the typical Camry and Avalon owners are a bit younger than in previous years. Shoot, I almost bought an Avalon last spring, until I discovered the much-nicer ES330.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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My parents and I saw the vehicle down here in Mexico and they really liked it a lot. We enjoyed the test drive a lot, and one can definitely feel the power. I think this vehicle will only improve as time goes on and I like the new look.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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The Camry is "mom and dad's" car. However, practicality makes younger people get the Camry when a good family car is needed.

Of course, older people will buy the Camry; younger people buy Corolla or Scions. However, when the times comes, when these younger people start a family or need the bigger car, they end up with the Camry...
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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Heck, i'm 20 wouldn't mind driving a Camry!
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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I wouldn't put much thought into this article. The writer thinks that there is a Cadillac 300, lol.

Like some of you have mentioned, it looks like the average age has gone down with the new model. It's one of the sportier family sedans out there. I think it looks sportier than the Accord and definately better looking. I see way more younger people driving them than older people. I've already seen plenty of young guys (20's) hook them up with 19" wheels, tinted glass, and body kits. They CHOSE the Camry for style. They could've bought anything around $25K but they chose the Camry.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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the reason why Buick and Oldsmobile's sales decline is because they don't have variety of cars that suits the different age groups. They narrowly focused their attention to what is popular, rather than thinking years ahead.

Toyota is wise enough not to fall from the mistakes of Buick and Oldsmobile. Heck, the author never mentioned Toyota's different approach in designing the new camry from traditional camry design to win younger buyers.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusChris
Heck, i'm 20 wouldn't mind driving a Camry!
Now THERE's young person with sense. I, myself, had two Buicks before I was 20.

And so a lot of 50-year-olds drive Camrys.......so what? THAT alone doesn't make a car "stuffy". Some of this car "image" nonsense makes me want to disgorge my lunch.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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The Camry will never die. It's too wonderful!
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Well....the camry wasnt allowed to get old and stuffy in europe...it got cancelled...dont know why...

The largest Toyota sedan on sale in europe nowadays is the Avensis:
http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyo...ned&id=AV4_gal
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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I honestly think before this new Camry, yes, the Camry was going the grandpa route.
This new one really was needed and its doing great and seems much more fun.
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300 sedan? Cadillac?
Haha, someone catch it before me... haha...

I like camrys.. They are great everyday cars... I personally sold 30+ camrys and had 3 of them before.... I am now 27 and I still don;t mind drive another Camry.
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