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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 04:50 AM
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Report: General Motors & Ford Consider Merger
Executives from Ford and General Motors have discussed a possible merger or alliance, trade publication Automotive News reports in its Monday, Aug. 18, edition. The negotiations began in July after Nissan and Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn broached the possibility of an alliance among Renault, Nissan and GM, according to several sources familiar with the talks. It is not clear who launched the talks. One source says GM CEO Rick Wagoner contacted Ford Motor the day after Ghosn disclosed his plan. A second source disputes that.

In August, GM CFO Fritz Henderson discussed the proposed alliance with Ford CFO Don Leclair, said a source familiar with the talks. But it is not at all clear whether the negotiations will bear fruit. As of now, the two companies are not holding talks, and one source says there is a slim chance that anything will come of it.

GM spokesman Tony Cervone declined to comment on the report.

"We regularly talk to a number of people in the industry regarding business opportunities of mutual interest," Cervone said Friday, Aug. 15. "As a matter of course, we don't comment on any of those because in many cases, they simply don't lead to anything."

Ford spokesman Oscar Suris also declined to comment.

To complicate things, GM is studying the Ghosn proposal to join the Nissan-Renault alliance. GM is two-thirds of the way through a 90-day study, which it is conducting with Renault and Nissan.

Ghosn made his proposal that GM join the Nissan-Renault alliance at the urging of Las Vegas billionaire Kirk Kerkorian, a major GM shareholder.

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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 04:53 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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They formed an alliance on developing their transverse 6spd automatic trannys which makes a lot of sense, but I could never see them merging.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Alliance? Yes. They will benefit from sharing certain technologies and systems.

Merger? I don't think so. Since both are in debt, they need to figure out ways to decrease their deficit, not make it bigger...
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Doubt a merger would be allowed, because the government would stop that from happening
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Doubt a merger would be allowed, because the government would stop that from happening
Yea. The US Antitrust agents are going to stop this merger for sure.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 04:08 AM
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Yea. The US Antitrust agents are going to stop this merger for sure.
I'm not so sure about that. The companies could make a very strong argument that the merger would both benefit the companies (and therefore the employees) and customers. Ford or GM by themselves have proven to be uncompetitive in today's marketplace. With so much foreign competition, they could argue that the ONLY way for them to stay in business is to merge. I doubt any antitrust investigator is going to want to be held responsible for hundreds of thousands of unemployment claims if the companies go out of business because he refused the merger...
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman
I'm not so sure about that. The companies could make a very strong argument that the merger would both benefit the companies (and therefore the employees) and customers. Ford or GM by themselves have proven to be uncompetitive in today's marketplace. With so much foreign competition, they could argue that the ONLY way for them to stay in business is to merge. I doubt any antitrust investigator is going to want to be held responsible for hundreds of thousands of unemployment claims if the companies go out of business because he refused the merger...
An anti-trust person wouldn't have the last word anyway. It would very likely end up in the courts.
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman
I'm not so sure about that. The companies could make a very strong argument that the merger would both benefit the companies (and therefore the employees) and customers. Ford or GM by themselves have proven to be uncompetitive in today's marketplace. With so much foreign competition, they could argue that the ONLY way for them to stay in business is to merge. I doubt any antitrust investigator is going to want to be held responsible for hundreds of thousands of unemployment claims if the companies go out of business because he refused the merger...
When those two are the two top selling companies in the US and top 3 in the world, they will not be allowed to merge
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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i dont see what they could offer each other, I dont see any complimentary technologies, both lost a substantial amount of workers and production plants, if they did merge it would just be like GM or Ford pre cost cutting

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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Merger? I don't think so. Since both are in debt, they need to figure out ways to decrease their deficit, not make it bigger...
EXACTLY. Two bad companies DO NOT and have never equaled one good one. Especially two HUGE bad companies...

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