New Lincoln Flagship: 2008 MKS
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Lincoln is going NOWHERE.............Its one of the worst run companies. Any company that releases a NEW model as a Zephyr and then changes its name to MKZ for 2nd model year with no updates, has no idea about marketing or a plan for the brand. 
I saw the MKS in person at NY auto show and it looks like CRAP.
They should take some lessons from Cadillac.
I saw the MKS in person at NY auto show and it looks like CRAP.
They should take some lessons from Cadillac.
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Originally Posted by bruce van
The Lincoln brand has sooooooo much potential. The Navigator is a good looking SUV and the Towncar is still the VIP chauffer car of choice.
If they just designed something that looked
cool people would probably buy from this company. I don't there there are any really "bad"
things people associate with Lincoln.
If they just designed something that looked
cool people would probably buy from this company. I don't there there are any really "bad"
things people associate with Lincoln.
Navigator cant compete with the Escalade anymore based on performance/styling/luxury/sales. The Town Car is being discontinued for no reason, and its Lincoln's best selling car. Like i said, Lincoln is going nowhere fast. They discontinued their best car, the LS, and replaced it with a dressed up Fusion(Zephyr).
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
I disagree.
Navigator cant compete with the Escalade anymore based on performance/styling/luxury/sales. The Town Car is being discontinued for no reason, and its Lincoln's best selling car. Like i said, Lincoln is going nowhere fast. They discontinued their best car, the LS, and replaced it with a dressed up Fusion(Zephyr).
Navigator cant compete with the Escalade anymore based on performance/styling/luxury/sales. The Town Car is being discontinued for no reason, and its Lincoln's best selling car. Like i said, Lincoln is going nowhere fast. They discontinued their best car, the LS, and replaced it with a dressed up Fusion(Zephyr).
I agree with your statement about the LS except that it's been a reliability/service/warranty nightmare for Lincoln/Ford.
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Originally Posted by bruce van
The Navigator is a good looking SUV
You like the way it looks??
BIG
IMO.I did like the previous generation Navi over the previous generation Escalade. But now the 'Lade looks so much better. The discontinued Lincoln Blackwood sales numbers will probably look better than the new Navigators.
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Lincoln V-8 axed
Ford halts engine plan for flagship MKS
Amy Wilson
Automotive News / August 21, 2006 - 6:00 am
DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. has killed plans to put a V-8 engine in its future Lincoln flagship sedan.
The 4.4-liter V-8, a version of a Yamaha engine used in the Volvo XC90 crossover, was slated to power the Lincoln MKS beginning in 2008. Ford planned to produce the V-8 at its Lima, Ohio, plant. But in recent days, the company has canceled the program, supplier and industry sources say.
The V-8 appears to be a victim of new cost-cutting efforts by Ford, which says it needs to accelerate its Way Forward restructuring plan for North America.
"Lower-volume engine production is always higher cost," said Eric Fedewa, a powertrain analyst with CSM Worldwide in Northville, Mich.
Ford had planned to use the V-8 in other future products, including crossovers for the Ford and Lincoln brands. Annual engine volume was expected to approach 100,000.
Ford now will rely solely on its new 3.5-liter V-6 engine family to power the MKS, sources said. Ford's other V-8s are too large. The decision could prove to be a competitive challenge in a segment where most rivals offer a V-8.
The 3.5-liter V-6 is being added to the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego sedans, which share a platform with the MKS. Lincoln's smaller MKZ sedan also is using the 3.5-liter V-6 beginning this fall.
To set the bigger sedan apart, Ford will boost the output of the base V-6 for the MKS, sources said.
Ford spokeswoman Sara Tatchio said: "We have taken the step to differentiate the powertrain in the Lincoln MKZ, and we hope to do that for Lincolns moving forward."
Ford halts engine plan for flagship MKS
Amy Wilson
Automotive News / August 21, 2006 - 6:00 am
DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. has killed plans to put a V-8 engine in its future Lincoln flagship sedan.
The 4.4-liter V-8, a version of a Yamaha engine used in the Volvo XC90 crossover, was slated to power the Lincoln MKS beginning in 2008. Ford planned to produce the V-8 at its Lima, Ohio, plant. But in recent days, the company has canceled the program, supplier and industry sources say.
The V-8 appears to be a victim of new cost-cutting efforts by Ford, which says it needs to accelerate its Way Forward restructuring plan for North America.
"Lower-volume engine production is always higher cost," said Eric Fedewa, a powertrain analyst with CSM Worldwide in Northville, Mich.
Ford had planned to use the V-8 in other future products, including crossovers for the Ford and Lincoln brands. Annual engine volume was expected to approach 100,000.
Ford now will rely solely on its new 3.5-liter V-6 engine family to power the MKS, sources said. Ford's other V-8s are too large. The decision could prove to be a competitive challenge in a segment where most rivals offer a V-8.
The 3.5-liter V-6 is being added to the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego sedans, which share a platform with the MKS. Lincoln's smaller MKZ sedan also is using the 3.5-liter V-6 beginning this fall.
To set the bigger sedan apart, Ford will boost the output of the base V-6 for the MKS, sources said.
Ford spokeswoman Sara Tatchio said: "We have taken the step to differentiate the powertrain in the Lincoln MKZ, and we hope to do that for Lincolns moving forward."
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Lincoln V-8 axed
Ford halts engine plan for flagship MKS
Amy Wilson
Automotive News / August 21, 2006 - 6:00 am
DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. has killed plans to put a V-8 engine in its future Lincoln flagship sedan.
The 4.4-liter V-8, a version of a Yamaha engine used in the Volvo XC90 crossover, was slated to power the Lincoln MKS beginning in 2008. Ford planned to produce the V-8 at its Lima, Ohio, plant. But in recent days, the company has canceled the program, supplier and industry sources say.
The V-8 appears to be a victim of new cost-cutting efforts by Ford, which says it needs to accelerate its Way Forward restructuring plan for North America.
"Lower-volume engine production is always higher cost," said Eric Fedewa, a powertrain analyst with CSM Worldwide in Northville, Mich.
Ford had planned to use the V-8 in other future products, including crossovers for the Ford and Lincoln brands. Annual engine volume was expected to approach 100,000.
Ford now will rely solely on its new 3.5-liter V-6 engine family to power the MKS, sources said. Ford's other V-8s are too large. The decision could prove to be a competitive challenge in a segment where most rivals offer a V-8.
The 3.5-liter V-6 is being added to the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego sedans, which share a platform with the MKS. Lincoln's smaller MKZ sedan also is using the 3.5-liter V-6 beginning this fall.
To set the bigger sedan apart, Ford will boost the output of the base V-6 for the MKS, sources said.
Ford spokeswoman Sara Tatchio said: "We have taken the step to differentiate the powertrain in the Lincoln MKZ, and we hope to do that for Lincolns moving forward."
Ford halts engine plan for flagship MKS
Amy Wilson
Automotive News / August 21, 2006 - 6:00 am
DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. has killed plans to put a V-8 engine in its future Lincoln flagship sedan.
The 4.4-liter V-8, a version of a Yamaha engine used in the Volvo XC90 crossover, was slated to power the Lincoln MKS beginning in 2008. Ford planned to produce the V-8 at its Lima, Ohio, plant. But in recent days, the company has canceled the program, supplier and industry sources say.
The V-8 appears to be a victim of new cost-cutting efforts by Ford, which says it needs to accelerate its Way Forward restructuring plan for North America.
"Lower-volume engine production is always higher cost," said Eric Fedewa, a powertrain analyst with CSM Worldwide in Northville, Mich.
Ford had planned to use the V-8 in other future products, including crossovers for the Ford and Lincoln brands. Annual engine volume was expected to approach 100,000.
Ford now will rely solely on its new 3.5-liter V-6 engine family to power the MKS, sources said. Ford's other V-8s are too large. The decision could prove to be a competitive challenge in a segment where most rivals offer a V-8.
The 3.5-liter V-6 is being added to the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego sedans, which share a platform with the MKS. Lincoln's smaller MKZ sedan also is using the 3.5-liter V-6 beginning this fall.
To set the bigger sedan apart, Ford will boost the output of the base V-6 for the MKS, sources said.
Ford spokeswoman Sara Tatchio said: "We have taken the step to differentiate the powertrain in the Lincoln MKZ, and we hope to do that for Lincolns moving forward."
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