yes

The e39 had a 4.9L or 5L V8 this is a 4L like 4/5th of the V10.

BTW if anyone thinks 'low TQ' can't get it done, look at the M6 (R&T test). The M6 has just 383-TQ at a high 6100 rpm. 1/4 mile 12.4sec@118mph.

 

That is one thing BMW is good about. You can special order at any time. You can even do an European Delivery if you wish. The will do whatever you want.

 

Not for M3's. (Or at least, you don't save any money like you do for non-M models.)

 

Hmmm, not sure about the saving money through ED, but you can still special order it though right? At least I haven't heard about anything saying you can't.

 

I think you can, but I haven't heard either way for sure...

 

You can both order and ED an M3; however you will not save any money ED'ing an M3.

 

no i am talking about off the line, it already can't handle the traction.

 

That's more related to torque and gearing than HP. HP is for top speed, torque is for acceleration.

I think you have LSD and PI TC which gives you loads of torque delivery at rest which can easily overpower your traction.

 

If the M3 is that much, that is Cayman S/Boxster S territory....True u lose the 2 seats but sigh....

The E36 M3 was a 36k car. Its basically jumped 20k in price. Wow.

 

So what determines ability to climb hills without struggling? HP? Torque?

 

hehe, good point though even at stock i was able to light up my 275 back then

i think it should be tq. with my old old 120hp camry, climbing up a hill with 5 people in the car was a mess, i had to turn off AC and almost stick my foot out to help push it. but with my gs400, i can have AC full blast, 4 gear, and around 3000rpm and it keeps on going and going

 

hill climbing you need traction and engine power, on initial D which is very realistic btw, all the up hill cars are usually turboed with AWD or RWD, lightweight good cornering and braking cars take the downhill, which power isnt really needed as much

 

Automobile's 335i Dynamometer Run

 

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Opps sorry , I was away on vacation when those were posted. Didn't read all that was posted in this thread while I was away