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Why buy a wannabe SUV FWD or AWD Lexus or get a REAL RWD or AWD SUV from Infiniti with a sports car feel instead of a Camry feel?
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Well even though the GS3 has a smaller engine, this is a trade down. The FX is a RX competitor, so more of an ES class than GS class.
Though, since they can't give away the things, you can get a very big discount on the FX45, which makes it more appealing.
Its 350Z based, FM platform, so its a very sporty for a SUV. It also almost defeats the purpose as cargo room is nowhere near abundant.
IMO, the RX 400h is just the better buy. No, you can't take the slalom at 70mph like in teh FX but why would u even want to do that in ANY SUV? RX 400h=equivilent acceleration, double the gas mileage, the prestige of a Lexus and the conversation piece of owning a hybrid. The RX 400h is also more luxurious more reliable (though the FX is too) and just forward in thinking and execution.
I will give the FX the "shock" value. I won't get into its looks from my perspective but 2 things it has going for it over the RX
1. Its clearly more adventerous styling wise.
2. There are much less of them on the road
The FX and 2GS3 are pretty much on opposite ends of the spectrum, may I suggest a corvette in red
Nothing wrong with an SUV being FWD or RWD based. They suit the purpose for many. Cargo space, people moving and the occassional off-froad trekking. It's all preference and desired value.
The FX45 is one awesome vehicle. I've been a fan of them since they came out. THe interior and stiff ride from the initial year has been fixed mostly. The ride of the FX45 is still pretty stiff, but less bone jarring than before. Comes standard with dubs, good engine, seductive exhaust tone, and sexy styling. If I were to get an SUV, that is my current favorite.
The FX45 is definitely not a trade-down from your GS300. It's not even remotely close to the ES class.
The FX45 is basically a AWD wagon version of the RWD midsize V8 luxury sedan class (i.e., M45, GS430, 550i, E500, A6 4.2). Its primary competitors are the X5 V8 and the Cayenne S. These vehicles are all RWD biased and don't offer much in terms of trunk space. People who get these "SUVs" generally get them for the AWD, higher ride height, sporty characteristics, ground clearance, and utility when the rear seats are folded down.
Why buy a wannabe SUV FWD or AWD Lexus or get a REAL RWD or AWD SUV from Infiniti with a sports car feel instead of a Camry feel?
Did you read anything I said? I posted pros and cons for the FX and RX. This is a LEXUS site what did you expect? And clearly the market prefers the RX to the FX, its not even close.
I didn't say the FX is trash, I suggested keeping the GS. This is a poll, with 2 options. You pick one, I pick the other.
Originally Posted by jrock65
The FX45 is definitely not a trade-down from your GS300. It's not even remotely close to the ES class.
The FX45 is basically a AWD wagon version of the RWD midsize V8 luxury sedan class (i.e., M45, GS430, 550i, E500, A6 4.2). Its primary competitors are the X5 V8 and the Cayenne S. These vehicles are all RWD biased and don't offer much in terms of trunk space. People who get these "SUVs" generally get them for the AWD, higher ride height, sporty characteristics, ground clearance, and utility when the rear seats are folded down.
Your wrong. The FX is RX competiton thus both are ES/G35 eqivilents.. Both the RX and FX are based on cars. One is FWD with AWD avail, the other is RWD with AWD avail. Both offers a V-6, one a V-8 option, the other a hybrid option.
For all the FXs greatness by some in this thread, it has never beat the X5 or Cayenne in ANY comparison.
Your wrong. The FX is RX competiton thus both are ES/G35 eqivilents.. Both the RX and FX are based on cars. One is FWD with AWD avail, the other is RWD with AWD avail. Both offers a V-6, one a V-8 option, the other a hybrid option.
No, you're wrong. The vehicle that the original poster asked about is the FX45. It is X5 V8, SRX AWD, and Cayenne S competition.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
For all the FXs greatness by some in this thread, it has never beat the X5 or Cayenne in ANY comparison.
Wrong again. Motortrend placed the FX45 in second place and X5 V8 in 4th place.
Cliffud, 1SICKLEX is right, every car-specific forum will have it's biases.
To offer you the opportunity to hear the opposing view, I'd invite you to post your question over at InfinitiFX.org and see what FX owners may have to say.
For all the FXs greatness by some in this thread, it has never beat the X5 or Cayenne in ANY comparison.
If I'm not mistaken it's beat the X5 in more than one rag test. Not that that matters. The Cayenne is also about $12-15k more expensive, but again if you have the money that doesn't matter.
It could be the FX95, yes, the engine is bigger, its still FM based, which is the 350Z platform, which is the G35 platform.
It could be the RX900h, the engine is bigger/hybrid, its still Camry based.
In Car and Driver, the FX finished 3rd behind the Caddy SRX and Porsche Cayenne S. I have forgotten what was 4th.
Err, yeah. The M45 is also based on the FM platform. I maintain that cars like the FX45 and X5 V8 are AWD SUV siblings of RWD sedans such as the M45 and 550i.
The $30k IS250 shares the same FR platform as the $65k GS450h. Just because they share a platform doesn't mean that the GS450h is in the IS250 class.
I am well aware that the FX has been beaten by the other cars in comparos. I was pointing out that your statement that the FX45 has NEVER beaten the X5 in ANY comparo is flatly UNTRUE.
I say trade the GS3 for the FX45, the truck is just a lifted sports sedan, but if your more into having your purse match your heels then by all means get the RX