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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Well, I fell for it. There has been a lot of discussion about being OK to use regular gas even when the manufacturer recommends premium. I have read many times that the ECU will compensate for the lower octane and adjust the timing accordingly. So yesterday I convinced myself to give it a try. Since I had half a tank of premium, I'd only be adding half a tank of regular, so I was sure my '04 LS430 wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Smart car....stupid me. I now hear pinging even with mild 5th gear acceleration on flat, level roads. Could it be because the temperature is in the 90's, the humidity high? Can't tell the difference in performance or gas mileage, but I sure hate to hear my baby in pain.

Just thought I'd warn anyone thinking about trying regular grade gasoline to evaluate the savings vs. the feedback you will get from your engine. I figured that half a tank of regular saved me a whopping $2.00 over premium. Sure seems like false economy to me now.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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It could have been worse. It's better to learn than to not learn at all. But hey, with the $2.00 you saved you can buy Kung Fu slippers or even 8+ packs of Top Ramen noodles.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeP
Well, I fell for it. There has been a lot of discussion about being OK to use regular gas even when the manufacturer recommends premium. I have read many times that the ECU will compensate for the lower octane and adjust the timing accordingly. So yesterday I convinced myself to give it a try. Since I had half a tank of premium, I'd only be adding half a tank of regular, so I was sure my '04 LS430 wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Smart car....stupid me. I now hear pinging even with mild 5th gear acceleration on flat, level roads. Could it be because the temperature is in the 90's, the humidity high? Can't tell the difference in performance or gas mileage, but I sure hate to hear my baby in pain.

Just thought I'd warn anyone thinking about trying regular grade gasoline to evaluate the savings vs. the feedback you will get from your engine. I figured that half a tank of regular saved me a whopping $2.00 over premium. Sure seems like false economy to me now.

I agree........in part. I tried a full tank in my 92 sc400. While I experienced no pinging, the performance drop was substantial. Mind, it was 2 weeks ago when we here in the NorthEast were slammed with super high humidity and high heat. This I'm sure contributed to the issue. I also noticed my mileage was slightly decreased. I credit this to me being heavier on the foot due to the decrease in performance. She now has a fresh tank of 93 Octane! I think the car was so happy, it goosed me while driving!!
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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What's worse is when someone borrows your car and puts $10 worth of 87 octane as if they are doing you some kind of favor. My Strange Rover drove funny enough as it did the last thing you want is when your doing 70 on a highway and you feel this strange pull when changing gears.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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yeah that's right, it could have been worse, the ecu is trying to retard the timing as much as it can already

come on, you got an ls430, pay for the gas (just kidding)
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Note to self: don't buy an LS from MikeP.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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OK you guys. I feel bad enough already. I swear I saw tears dripping from my car's headlights and I don't have washers. It's like I cheated on her . I had to promise that I would fill her with 93 octane as soon as her tank is almost empty....and that I would massage her with a coat of NXT.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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I dunno if the LS has an anti-syphon feature, but i'd try to syphon out all the gas and replace it with premium!
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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add a bottle of octane booster NOW. any brand. I recommend NOS

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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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i agree... just add some octane booster...
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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i agree... just add some octane booster...
they dont work, do they? at least i dont think they do.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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they dont work, do they? at least i dont think they do.
Some of them do.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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add a bottle of octane booster NOW. any brand. I recommend NOS

the only octane booster I would use is a gallon of xylene or toulene from the paint store.
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MikeP - I'm sure you're a smart guy, and since you drive an LS430 I assume you're not broke, but trying to save $2 a tank on a $60,000 car when I think your manual explicitly states that you should put at least 91 octane in the car makes no sense.

It's amazing to me how hyped up people get about gas prices. I can understand it if someone's a checkout clerk at Wal*Mart, but for probably just about everyone on ClubLexus it's just not that big a deal.
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Originally Posted by MikeP
OK you guys. I feel bad enough already. I swear I saw tears dripping from my car's headlights and I don't have washers. It's like I cheated on her . I had to promise that I would fill her with 93 octane as soon as her tank is almost empty....and that I would massage her with a coat of NXT.
well, we had to get hard on you so you don't do it again but in any case, i think you should detail the car in and out now just to make her happy!
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