View Poll Results: Does the ad(s) with the Nissan Maxima sound like the car has a turbo (blow off valve)
Yes
29
96.67%
No
1
3.33%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll
Lexus Champion
Also, after test driving the car, one should ask the dealer what ever happened to that "pssshhhht" sound from the commercials... 
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Maybe Celicamaro since he said he didn't think it was a BOV sound.Originally Posted by adidosc
hmmm... i wonder who the ONE vote for no was.
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yeah, no doubt. i wasn't tryin to point fingers at you or him, just havin fun with it. Originally Posted by Variance
Maybe Celicamaro since he said he didn't think it was a BOV sound.
Rookie
Volvo never got in trouble for this because it wasn't their fault. It was totally the decision of the production company and it made sense. They did it for the protection of their crew. You can imagine the liability of your employee(s) gets crushed from a set of stacked cars when one collapses. They didn't have or seek Volvo's permission for the modification. Further, as far as I know, there was no specific test of the Volvo without the reinforcement so there's no way to know what affect the modification had on the efficacy of Volvo's claim for vehicle strength/integrity.
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1. Volvo had an ad in the 80s showing how strong one of their cars were. They had a truck like BIGFOOT, run over a bunch of cars and a Volvo. The Volvo did not get crushed like everyone else.
Well it got investigated. Volvo then had to fess up that the car they used was REINFORCED and not a profuction car. Bad P.R and they had to remove the ad. Not sure if they got fined or not.
2. When Lexus debuted the ad with the LS 400 running with the champange flutes, no one believed it to be true. It it wasn't, it would be a DISASTER for the new company. An independent agency (the same one that tested the Volvo and most ads) bought an LS 400, and tried the same feat. To their and the worlds surprise, the LS 400 they bought performed the same thing.
3. THe point of ADS to to get people in the showroom and to buy. Most people who see ads DO NOT do research, they see what they like and buy it.
4. If that same agency tested the RAM, it better peform to what they said.
5. THE LAW
Under the Federal Trade Commission Act:
* Advertising must be truthful and non-deceptive;
* Advertisers must have evidence to back up their claims; and
* Advertisements cannot be unfair.
6. What can happen
What penalties can be imposed against a company that runs a false or deceptive ad?
The penalties depend on the nature of the violation. Among the remedies that the FTC or the courts have imposed include:
* Cease and desist orders. These legally-binding orders require companies to stop running the deceptive ad or engaging in the deceptive practice, to have substantiation for claims in future ads, to report periodically to FTC staff about the substantiation they have for claims in new ads, and to pay a fine of $11,000 per day per ad if the company violates the law in the future.
* Civil penalties, consumer redress, and other monetary remedies. Violation of certain statutes can result in civil penalties ranging from thousands of dollars to millions of dollars, depending on the nature of the violation. In other cases, advertisers have had to give full or partial refunds to all consumers who bought the product.
* Corrective advertising, disclosures, and other informational remedies. Advertisers have been required to take out new ads to correct the misinformation conveyed in the original ad. Advertisers also have had to notify purchasers about deceptive claims in ads, include specific disclosures in future ads, or provide other information to consumer
* Bans and bonds: In some cases, individuals have been banned from an industry or have been required to post a bond before continuing business.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This is my last post b/c I can see where this is going, your defending Nissan. Its bigger than that, this is about a deceptive ADVERTISEMENT. It can be anyone.. Here are a COUPLE examples of why they can get sued and lose or be forced to remove the ad.1. Volvo had an ad in the 80s showing how strong one of their cars were. They had a truck like BIGFOOT, run over a bunch of cars and a Volvo. The Volvo did not get crushed like everyone else.
Well it got investigated. Volvo then had to fess up that the car they used was REINFORCED and not a profuction car. Bad P.R and they had to remove the ad. Not sure if they got fined or not.
2. When Lexus debuted the ad with the LS 400 running with the champange flutes, no one believed it to be true. It it wasn't, it would be a DISASTER for the new company. An independent agency (the same one that tested the Volvo and most ads) bought an LS 400, and tried the same feat. To their and the worlds surprise, the LS 400 they bought performed the same thing.
3. THe point of ADS to to get people in the showroom and to buy. Most people who see ads DO NOT do research, they see what they like and buy it.
4. If that same agency tested the RAM, it better peform to what they said.
5. THE LAW
Under the Federal Trade Commission Act:
* Advertising must be truthful and non-deceptive;
* Advertisers must have evidence to back up their claims; and
* Advertisements cannot be unfair.
6. What can happen
What penalties can be imposed against a company that runs a false or deceptive ad?
The penalties depend on the nature of the violation. Among the remedies that the FTC or the courts have imposed include:
* Cease and desist orders. These legally-binding orders require companies to stop running the deceptive ad or engaging in the deceptive practice, to have substantiation for claims in future ads, to report periodically to FTC staff about the substantiation they have for claims in new ads, and to pay a fine of $11,000 per day per ad if the company violates the law in the future.
* Civil penalties, consumer redress, and other monetary remedies. Violation of certain statutes can result in civil penalties ranging from thousands of dollars to millions of dollars, depending on the nature of the violation. In other cases, advertisers have had to give full or partial refunds to all consumers who bought the product.
* Corrective advertising, disclosures, and other informational remedies. Advertisers have been required to take out new ads to correct the misinformation conveyed in the original ad. Advertisers also have had to notify purchasers about deceptive claims in ads, include specific disclosures in future ads, or provide other information to consumer
* Bans and bonds: In some cases, individuals have been banned from an industry or have been required to post a bond before continuing business.
Lexus Test Driver
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Same exact thing happened to me. I was dozing off on the couch when I heard it. i rolled over and was like WTF Maxima w/turbo???? LOL!Originally Posted by bluelex
Its funny I come on and read this, I just saw the coomercial for the 1st time tonight and thought to myself that it sounded like a blow off valve. Than I see this thread and I guess they were doing that on purpose.
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Why is it always me? I do run with the herd sometime. Originally Posted by Variance
Maybe Celicamaro since he said he didn't think it was a BOV sound.
BTW: I haven't seen the video yet and didn't vote. There are many types of BOV sounds due to the many maker of these devices. Some BOV can be adjusted to fire off like a machine gun and some sound like a fart. But all factory BOVs don't make any noticeable sounds as I've said in my previous post. A stock Nissan maxima even if it came turbo from the factory will not make any sound as it's BOV will not be design to release air back to the atmosphere. Only aftermarket unit give you that option. Aftermarket BOV don't really contribute any performance gain, some are just more durable and reliable than poorly design stock units(2nd gen eclipse/talons) and they look way cooler, some are worse than stock(my stock toyota unit is way better than my Blitz unit). They are mainly to release highly compressed charged air from doing damages to turbo bearings and make cool sounds. In fact most aftermarket unit will make vehicle run/idle poorly if not adjusted right. Stock vehicles are design to be quiet, their intended customers will be turned off by the sound of excess air being release, most will not know what a BOV is. So doesn't make sense to have a stock maxima sounding like a semi truck or modded Civic.
Without seeing or hearing that video, I gotta ask what everyone think a BOV should sound like. Is it the semi-truck type? The Blitz supersound(whale releasing excess water sound)? The HKS sequential type? What? Describe the sound in that video.
It's just a TV comercial guys, don't get too serious about it. I bet 90% of the consumers who see this comercial not even know what BOV is. They not even know what that hissing sound is or the function of the BOV.
We've seen all kind of comercials that can make you fly like MJ, swimming across the ocean, walk on water, or drink this beer and you will get laid. I love to watch the TV comercials because some of them are so funny and some of them are so stupid, but I've never get serious about those comercials.
We've seen all kind of comercials that can make you fly like MJ, swimming across the ocean, walk on water, or drink this beer and you will get laid. I love to watch the TV comercials because some of them are so funny and some of them are so stupid, but I've never get serious about those comercials.
Lexus Champion
Yeah... it definitely sounds like bov, but I doubt anybody will be suckered into buying one thinking that the max. has a turbo.
Out of all the car commercials made, I must say Toyota Tacoma commercials are the most exagerated. (and, yeah. I know they have small disclaimers on the bottom) Hilarious too.
Out of all the car commercials made, I must say Toyota Tacoma commercials are the most exagerated. (and, yeah. I know they have small disclaimers on the bottom) Hilarious too.
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We've seen all kind of comercials that can make you fly like MJ, swimming across the ocean, walk on water, or drink this beer and you will get laid. I love to watch the TV comercials because some of them are so funny and some of them are so stupid, but I've never get serious about those comercials.
Hey damnit, Air Jordans do make me jump higher Originally Posted by VVT-i
It's just a TV comercial guys, don't get too serious about it. I bet 90% of the consumers who see this comercial not even know what BOV is. They not even know what that hissing sound is or the function of the BOV.We've seen all kind of comercials that can make you fly like MJ, swimming across the ocean, walk on water, or drink this beer and you will get laid. I love to watch the TV comercials because some of them are so funny and some of them are so stupid, but I've never get serious about those comercials.
The poll closes in 2 days, whomever voted no, got seriously owned and this thread will then be locked.