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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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2 Japanese publications (My Car and Holiday Auto) are reporting the possibity of a V10 NSX.




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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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They are discontinuing the old NSX I dont think there is a huge market for that car. Especially when you can buy a s2000 and build it up to NSX status motor wise
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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Hmmmm NSX ala F1 style huh? Interesting.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Not to sound vindictive here, but NSX rumors and flip-flops from Acura have been literally a dime a dozen for the last several years. It's one word one day and someting else the next....one word at one car show and another one at the next. I personally won't believe ANYTHING any more about a next-generation NSX until I see it myself.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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Not to sound vindictive here, but NSX rumors and flip-flops from Acura have been literally a dime a dozen for the last several years. It's one word one day and someting else the next....one word at one car show and another one at the next. I personally won't believe ANYTHING any more about a next-generation NSX until I see it myself.
Yeah, your reminder of the flop-flops are discouraging, I still hope it's official this time . . .
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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Then again, they never actually said the NSX line up itself was dead. What they did say was that the HSC which everyone including the media assumed was the NSX replacement was dead. Therefore everyone just assumed that meant the NSX line up was dead. Honda themselves only claimed the HSC was one of several possible NSX successors.

Also, while a V10 would be nice, my bet is still on a V8. They are already testing a Honda V8 in the Ridgeline truck, and sources say the V8 probably could find its way into the RL before it even shows up in the Ridgeline. At least Honda now is testing a possible production V8. My Acura sources early this year had told me Honda was developing a V8 and I guess it actually came true.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Ironically guys, did you know that when Honda was testing the current NSX is the late 80s they actually had real working test mules of the NSX with V10s, V8s, Twin Turbo V6s, and standard non VTEC V6. In the end they ended up going with the VTEC V6. At that time that engine was enough. Today, a V8 or V10 would be needed to compete.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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honda is working on their NSX replacement. It's official and stated on their website. No details on the motor though.
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yeah i agree with ck6speed that v8 is more like it. v10 would be nice, but if honda really makes the nsx again, i am not sure if they would jump ahead and do the v10?
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
Then again, they never actually said the NSX line up itself was dead. What they did say was that the HSC which everyone including the media assumed was the NSX replacement was dead. Therefore everyone just assumed that meant the NSX line up was dead. Honda themselves only claimed the HSC was one of several possible NSX successors.

Also, while a V10 would be nice, my bet is still on a V8. They are already testing a Honda V8 in the Ridgeline truck, and sources say the V8 probably could find its way into the RL before it even shows up in the Ridgeline. At least Honda now is testing a possible production V8. My Acura sources early this year had told me Honda was developing a V8 and I guess it actually came true.
I want to say that a dealership in VA told me that a V8 was forthcoming, and I was like... whatever. I'm pretty sure I remember correctly when I say the same dude said a car slotted above the RL was coming as well, and relatively soon. That doesn't seem to have come true, though. The sketchy part is he said Acura wasn't calling the RL their flagship, and I'm not sure that that's even right. Car mags defintiely have called it the flagship, can't say for certain about Acura, though.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
Then again, they never actually said the NSX line up itself was dead. What they did say was that the HSC which everyone including the media assumed was the NSX replacement was dead. Therefore everyone just assumed that meant the NSX line up was dead. Honda themselves only claimed the HSC was one of several possible NSX successors.

Also, while a V10 would be nice, my bet is still on a V8. They are already testing a Honda V8 in the Ridgeline truck, and sources say the V8 probably could find its way into the RL before it even shows up in the Ridgeline. At least Honda now is testing a possible production V8. My Acura sources early this year had told me Honda was developing a V8 and I guess it actually came true.
A v-8 designed for a pickup truck/SUV would not be very suitable for high performance mid engine exotic and a v-8 designed for a high reving mid engined lightweight exotic car would not be suitable in a pickup or even a luxury car. If Honda puts a v-8 or v-10 in the new NSX it will probrably just be made for the NSX with titanium connecting rods, high reving internal design, etc more of Ferrari 360 or F430 characteristics which would not be ideal for a pickup. The DOHC v-6 in the current NSX was never used in another Honda/Acura vehicle if I am not mistaken but some of the technology did filter down to less expensive engines. Honda/Acura may still make a v-8 for the RL, sports/luxury coupe, Ridgeline, etc but I doubt the NSX will share that engine or they may do so much to change the characteristic of the engine to fit the NSX's needs it would be pretty much considered a different engine. I doubt the Lexus LFA would just use a LS430 engine if it uses a v-8. It will probrably utilize a special unique engine to fit the characteristics of a very high horsepower high performance expensive exotic.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UDel
A v-8 designed for a pickup truck/SUV would not be very suitable for high performance mid engine exotic and a v-8 designed for a high reving mid engined lightweight exotic car would not be suitable in a pickup or even a luxury car. If Honda puts a v-8 or v-10 in the new NSX it will probrably just be made for the NSX with titanium connecting rods, high reving internal design, etc more of Ferrari 360 or F430 characteristics which would not be ideal for a pickup. The DOHC v-6 in the current NSX was never used in another Honda/Acura vehicle if I am not mistaken but some of the technology did filter down to less expensive engines. Honda/Acura may still make a v-8 for the RL, sports/luxury coupe, Ridgeline, etc but I doubt the NSX will share that engine or they may do so much to change the characteristic of the engine to fit the NSX's needs it would be pretty much considered a different engine. I doubt the Lexus LFA would just use a LS430 engine if it uses a v-8. It will probrably utilize a special unique engine to fit the characteristics of a very high horsepower high performance expensive exotic.
This is true, but if they do use it in the RL and NSX I'm pretty sure it will be tweeked differently than for the truck. Probably the trucks get SOHC and the cars/NSX gets DOHC and the strengthened bottom end.

The C30/C32 engine in the NSX actually gets its roots from the C25 2.5L Legend V6. In fact, the demensions of the bottom end is closer to the C27 Legend engine than it is to the C32 91+ Legend engine. The oil pan in fact of the 87-90 Legend is the same as on the NSX. Anyway, I know the motors have little else in common since the NSX engine is completely reworked, but I'm just stating that it does come from the C block engine series used since 1986 in the Legend sedan.

Further more, Honda already does share engine series somewhat between their trucks and cars and even the RL. All the V6 engines are J series engines in either 3.0 liter(J30 Accord), 3.2L (J32 TL), or 3.5l (J35 MDX, Pilot, and RL).
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
yeah i agree with ck6speed that v8 is more like it. v10 would be nice, but if honda really makes the nsx again, i am not sure if they would jump ahead and do the v10?

Actually I personally think they would go V10 if they had to. Just like I mentioned in the earlier posts, according to the NSX book complied with NSX information, the prototypes did have a V10, V8, V6 and Turbo V6. What Honda at that time found was they could achieve their desired performance with the new VTEC V6. The V6 in this case would be better for balance and lighter even all things equal. Jump to todays time a V6 wont cut it, so it has to be a V8 or V10. V8s are still very much capable as the Corvette Z06 prooves, as well as the Ferrari Modena and Gallardo. My feeling is Honda will be able to achieve whatever desired performance goal with the V8, so they probably will not fo the V10 because of that. I haven't seen them do it just because yet. They always seem to use what works. However, if the competion in 3 years is just insane, than maybe Honda will have no choice but to use a V10. They have been building F1 V10s for years now so it wouldn't be too difficult. Of course, this is just my guess and it would be fun to come back to this post when the car is released and see how accurate or how off we were
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Well, even recently, Honda has claimed that they don't plan on using a V8 in the near future. However, they never said anything about not using a V10 in the future j\k

Although a V10 would be nice, my bet is on the V8 also.

Additionally, I don't recall any of the past information about the NSX being scraped without a replacement being official Honda news. It was always just magazine publications claiming or guessing. Now that Honda has officially announced that a new NSX is in development, I don't think anybody has to "see it to believe it."
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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what about V12???

they seriosuly need V10 or V12 this time. it aint 1991 anymore and they need to make big splash like they did back in 1991. the V6 wont help them much!
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