New Rice trend is drifting
Originally Posted by rominl
my bottom line. what they do to their cars? cool with me, it's their car and their money, none of my business. just like me, i got body kits on my cars and some people (even my friends) think it's stupid, pointless. hell yeah i understand them. BUT that doesn't mean everything is cool and i can't say they are stupid. when i see fwd cars with staggered wheels? i will still call it stupid. when i see civic with altezzas? i call them stupid. they put up their car on the road and they are asking people to talk about it. i put my cars on the road and i am ready to have people call my car rice for all i care too
Still, because it comes with some concensus status on CL, 20s are acceptable and even applauded mod despite all its shortcomings.For me, this is borderline a pot-kettle relationship. No, I would not do it to a FWD BUT I don't see a problem with it either. I think it LOOKS good, just like it LOOKS good on the GS. Neither car comes stock with staggered wheels and adding the staggered setup makes both types of car VISUALLY appealing to me. I don't have a problem getting past the WD setup.
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Originally Posted by Neo
Agreed. We all put things on the car that are not optimal. I did say that I would not personally put staggered rims on a FWD but I also don't see such strong objections as warranted. We put 20s on our GS. Some would say that is stupid and laugh. The size is out of spec. The performance is degraded. There are rubbing issues. You get the idea. Why do we do it? It looks damn good.
Still, because it comes with some concensus status on CL, 20s are acceptable and even applauded mod despite all its shortcomings.
For me, this is borderline a pot-kettle relationship. No, I would not do it to a FWD BUT I don't see a problem with it either. I think it LOOKS good, just like it LOOKS good on the GS. Neither car comes stock with staggered wheels and adding the staggered setup makes both types of car VISUALLY appealing to me. I don't have a problem getting past the WD setup.
Still, because it comes with some concensus status on CL, 20s are acceptable and even applauded mod despite all its shortcomings.For me, this is borderline a pot-kettle relationship. No, I would not do it to a FWD BUT I don't see a problem with it either. I think it LOOKS good, just like it LOOKS good on the GS. Neither car comes stock with staggered wheels and adding the staggered setup makes both types of car VISUALLY appealing to me. I don't have a problem getting past the WD setup.
Pontiac DOES have a staggered wheel for FWD, the front wheels are indeed wider than the rear b/c it is putting more power to the front wheels.
On the TL A-Spec, the sportier TL, the wheels are wider but the same size all around!
So its NOT the pot/kettle since the execution is totally different when its for function. Staggered on FWD is for looks ONLY. I have never seen a staggered setup on a RWD car where the front wheels are wider!
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Well looking at the GS, in L-tuned form, it did offer a staggered setup, 235 front and 265 rear. This was due to the car being a sportier/tuned version of the GS.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Pontiac DOES have a staggered wheel for FWD, the front wheels are indeed wider than the rear b/c it is putting more power to the front wheels.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
So its NOT the pot/kettle since the execution is totally different when its for function. Staggered on FWD is for looks ONLY. I have never seen a staggered setup on a RWD car where the front wheels are wider! 

Mike, I think you are stuck on the staggered wheels issue whereas I am talking in general terms of modding for the visuals. We both agree that the staggered rims on FWD cars is a purely visual mod. You believe it is dumb but I used putting on 20s on our cars (with all of the issues) as an example of a mod that would be dumb to others who are coming form a purely performance/functional point-of-view. Another example would be slamming cars low. To some, it is visually appealing but to others, it is not. It does not add to performance to be THAT low and serves no function other than aesthetics for the owner.
Remember, some are condemning the FWDs guys for doing visual mods. Although it is functional for us, it is only visual for them so we have to bring in visual only mods on our end to get a fair comparison.
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