Toyota vs. Nissan
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
The guy has a point at least in terms of style. While I'm not a huge fan of the Nissan products style, I would pick a Maxima or Altima over a Camry myself just based on the exterior.
I think you pretty much hit it on the head. Surely, I haven't driven ANY Nissan in my life (yet), and don't know how they drive, but from what I see now from their new products as I mentioned, it impresses me. Surely, Toyotas are "plushier" and not geared towards sport as much, but thats not what I was referring to. I was talking about exterior style and (as well as most of the interiors) - Nissan SEEMS to have more style in and out, that's all. I was just wondering whether or not anyone else noticed this and could comment. I mean when I saw the Pathfinder yesterday, it looked like it belonged not under a Nissan badge, but under Audi or Lexus...in terms of appearance (paint, finish). When compared to the 4Runner, Pathfinder wins style hands down (exterior at least).
Originally Posted by flipside909
I smell troll. But while we're at it, Toyota > Nissan..in assets, in world sales, prestige and reputation. 
I did not include Land Cruiser on purpose since it costs oooo about $15,000 more than the Armada base price???
And yes, I forgot to mention the Avalon, which is the only car that is more powerful than a comparable Nissan.
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Originally Posted by AmethySC
I like the exterior designs of some of the Nissans over the Toyota counterparts, for example, I'll take the Murano over the Highlander any day, but the Toyota's are better built & you can see & feel the superior quality when you sit inside one.
Nissan's are on average more sporty whereas Toyota's are more comfortable to ride in, which seems to be what the majority of the general public prefer.
Nissan's are on average more sporty whereas Toyota's are more comfortable to ride in, which seems to be what the majority of the general public prefer.
I am a toyota fan but the cosmetics are ugly and for old farts. The build and quality isn't as gr8 in Nissans, but performace and cosmetics are changing the game.
Originally Posted by dgtbullet
Exaclty +1
I am a toyota fan but the cosmetics are ugly and for old farts. The build and quality isn't as gr8 in Nissans, but performace and cosmetics are changing the game.
I am a toyota fan but the cosmetics are ugly and for old farts. The build and quality isn't as gr8 in Nissans, but performace and cosmetics are changing the game.
I'm definately a Lexus fan, but I'm not really a Toyota fan when it comes to the products they give us here in the USA.
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Originally Posted by alibaba
I did not include Land Cruiser on purpose since it costs oooo about $15,000 more than the Armada base price???
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Style is so subjective. Personally, I don't like how the newer Nissans and Toyotas look. I prefer the Pathfinder and 4Runner of the 90s. Nowadays, Nissan may seem more exciting than Toyota to the 18-35 age group. Toyota knows this and they have the Scion brand to address it. Actually, I'd take a tC over the Celica but the 350z got them both beat. I just can't stand the 350z interior though.
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Originally Posted by FLiP Sp33d
The Land Cruiser proves that people will pay $60,000 for a Toyota. Not that many people would pay that much for a Nissan or not enough to make a profit at least.
I'm sure folks thought the same regarding Toyota, that no one would pay that much for a Toyota. You just never know.
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Originally Posted by FLiP Sp33d
The Land Cruiser proves that people will pay $60,000 for a Toyota. Not that many people would pay that much for a Nissan or not enough to make a profit at least.
Style is so subjective. Personally, I don't like how the newer Nissans and Toyotas look. I prefer the Pathfinder and 4Runner of the 90s. Nowadays, Nissan may seem more exciting than Toyota to the 18-35 age group. Toyota knows this and they have the Scion brand to address it. Actually, I'd take a tC over the Celica but the 350z got them both beat. I just can't stand the 350z interior though.
Style is so subjective. Personally, I don't like how the newer Nissans and Toyotas look. I prefer the Pathfinder and 4Runner of the 90s. Nowadays, Nissan may seem more exciting than Toyota to the 18-35 age group. Toyota knows this and they have the Scion brand to address it. Actually, I'd take a tC over the Celica but the 350z got them both beat. I just can't stand the 350z interior though.
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Originally Posted by Milla...
I don't think Nissan even makes anything at that price point without going over into Infiniti.
I'm sure folks thought the same regarding Toyota, that no one would pay that much for a Toyota. You just never know.
I'm sure folks thought the same regarding Toyota, that no one would pay that much for a Toyota. You just never know.
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Originally Posted by alibaba
So being a huge Toyo fan and posting/being worried about the competition makes me a troll all of a sudden, huh? Or should I just close my eyes next time I see Nissan/Honda/Hyuindai and say, "NOPE, TOYOTA IS MUCH BETTER JUST BECASUE IT IS"?
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Originally Posted by alibaba
Young buyers want cars that are stylish inside and out and the boyish young crowd want power. The only stylish car Scion offers is tc, definately not the box xB or the hatchback xA. I don't understand why Toyota thinks teens would rather drive ugly boxes and shortened minivans with weezer engines...I personally don't understand the point of the Scion brand; not to say it is completely pointelss, but I think it has far greater potential than what has been so far demonstrated through their products...
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=162524
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Originally Posted by flipside909
Well you don't understand but Nissan obviously does:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=162524
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=162524
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Originally Posted by alibaba
Is the Cube offered in the United States under a different brand, marketed at teens??? Not at all. It is not even sold in the North America. What's your point?
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Originally Posted by FLiP Sp33d
I don't think so.
Avalon XL
$26,350 MSRP
3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve Dual VVT-i V6
280 hp @ 6200 rpm
260 lb.-ft. @ 4700 rpm
Maxima 3.5 SE
Base MSRP: $27,500.00
3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve V6 engine
265 hp @ 5,800 rpm
255 lb-ft of torque @ 4,400 rpm
Corolla (Base)
1.8-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-I
130 hp @ 6000 rpm;
125 lb.-ft. @ 4200 rpm
Sentra (Base)
1.8L 16 valve - Variable Valve Timing
126 hp @ 6,000 rpm
129 lb-ft @ 2,400 rpm
Toyota Tacoma Access Cab
2.7L 4cyl
164 hp @ 5,200 rpm
183 ft-lb. @ 3,800 rpm
Nissan Frontier XE King Cab
2.5L 4cyl
154hp @ 5,200 rpm
173 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm
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Originally Posted by flipside909
For comparison's sake...
Corolla (Base)
1.8-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-I
130 hp @ 6000 rpm;
125 lb.-ft. @ 4200 rpm
Sentra (Base)
1.8L 16 valve - Variable Valve Timing
126 hp @ 6,000 rpm
129 lb-ft @ 2,400 rpm
Toyota Tacoma Access Cab
2.7L 4cyl
164 hp @ 5,200 rpm
183 ft-lb. @ 3,800 rpm
Nissan Frontier XE King Cab
2.5L 4cyl
154hp @ 5,200 rpm
173 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm
Corolla (Base)
1.8-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-I
130 hp @ 6000 rpm;
125 lb.-ft. @ 4200 rpm
Sentra (Base)
1.8L 16 valve - Variable Valve Timing
126 hp @ 6,000 rpm
129 lb-ft @ 2,400 rpm
Toyota Tacoma Access Cab
2.7L 4cyl
164 hp @ 5,200 rpm
183 ft-lb. @ 3,800 rpm
Nissan Frontier XE King Cab
2.5L 4cyl
154hp @ 5,200 rpm
173 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm
Sentra SER 165hp, 175tq; SER-spec V: 175hp; 180tq
Toyota has the XRS Corolla with 170hp but 130tq...
And I wasn't talking about the lousy 4 cylinders, I was talking more like 6 and 8cyls. Besides that, most people in this forum have agreed that Toyota's designs are inferior to those of Nissan, at least for now. Hopefully, this will change. Look at the new Avalon. That car has excellent fit and finish and the design sits very well with me; its in the SUV market that I'm not happy about...Corolla, Camry are ok and do the job;
But then look at the Matrix interior...hideous. Look at the Sequoia, Rav4 and 4Runner - all have extremely ugly and un-inviting interiors. Highlander seems ok.
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Originally Posted by alibaba
Even though I don't consider the Sentra a car worth comparison in this segment because it plain out stinks...:
Sentra SER 165hp, 175tq; SER-spec V: 175hp; 180tq
Toyota has the XRS Corolla with 170hp but 130tq...
And I wasn't talking about the lousy 4 cylinders, I was talking more like 6 and 8cyls. Besides that, most people in this forum have agreed that Toyota's designs are inferior to those of Nissan, at least for now.
Sentra SER 165hp, 175tq; SER-spec V: 175hp; 180tq
Toyota has the XRS Corolla with 170hp but 130tq...
And I wasn't talking about the lousy 4 cylinders, I was talking more like 6 and 8cyls. Besides that, most people in this forum have agreed that Toyota's designs are inferior to those of Nissan, at least for now.
Originally Posted by alibaba
And I think all Nissan engines are more powerful than the Toyota competition.
Originally Posted by alibaba
Even though I don't consider the Sentra a car worth comparison in this segment because it plain out stinks...
To be fair, you concluded your opinions on what you see in photos and on paper. Not by what you've actually experienced. Have you actually driven any of these vehicles or sat or operated any of their features? If you haven't go check them out! You may or may not like them when you actually go there to see the vehicles in person. When did looks mean a manufacturer makes better products?
Originally Posted by alibaba
I conclude that Nissan got themselves out of the hole and now as it appears to me, make better products than Toyota.
But then look at the Matrix interior...hideous. Look at the Sequoia, Rav4 and 4Runner - all have extremely ugly and un-inviting interiors. Highlander seems ok.
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