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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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Falling Concrete Injures Motorist On Freeway 5 minutes ago



A 50-year-old motorist was injured after concrete crashed through his windshield on the Lodge freeway Wednesday night.


The concrete fell onto the man's Lexus while he drove on the Lodge (M-10) freeway near the Northland Drive exit in Southfield, Local 4 reported. Michigan State Police troopers said the motorist sustained serious injuries.

Authorities are investigating whether the concrete came from under a freeway overpass, or if it was thrown onto the freeway.

Crews from the Michigan Department of Transportation are inspecting overpasses.

The motorist -- whose name was not released -- remained hospitalized Thursday morning.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Can't say this surprises me.

No offense to any of you peeps in Michigan, but I've seen dirt roads in Pakistan that were in better condition than the freeways in Michigan.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Well....this is what happens to concrete and asphalt infrastructure when, like Michigan, you are smack in the middle of the Great Lakes Snow Belt with 5-6 months of winter out of the year and the freeze-thaw cycle with salt and chemical de-icers goes on endlessly....especially without periodic rebuilding. Roads become like the surface of the moon and bridges and overpasses sometimes literally fall apart.
We also have this problem here in major East Coast cities, but to a lesser extent due to the somewhat shorter winters.

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Old May 1, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Faraaz23
Can't say this surprises me.

No offense to any of you peeps in Michigan, but I've seen dirt roads in Pakistan that were in better condition than the freeways in Michigan.
Laugh!!!!

Well tell you what, if you ever want winter wheels, the 2000 GS 16" wheels are tough as nails!
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Old May 1, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Well....this is what happens to concrete and asphalt infrastructure when, like Michigan, you are smack in the middle of the Great Lakes Snow Belt with 5-6 months of winter out of the year and the freeze-thaw cycle with salt and chemical de-icers goes on endlessly....especially without periodic rebuilding. Roads become like the surface of the moon and bridges and overpasses sometimes literally fall apart.
We also have this problem here in major East Coast cities, but to a lesser extent due to the somewhat shorter winters.
Funny... I thought it was just government incompetence. Canada has in general excellent roads.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Funny... I thought it was just government incompetence. Canada has in general excellent roads.

No, you're right.

Lots of insider crap here. Jobs getting bid out to compaines who cannot build roads right.... only in 7 years later have to redo the same 10 mile section...

putting cold patch in holes thinking it will fix the issue... it does for about a month then the hole is back....

going with the lowest bidder on jobs...... blah

Drive to Toronto from Detroit, the roads are SMOOTH
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No, you're right.
I lived in Canada and have been to Detroit many times so I know what it's like. I just couldn't believe what that road, is it 39A is like? Disgraceful. Especially for the 'motor city'.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I lived in Canada and have been to Detroit many times so I know what it's like. I just couldn't believe what that road, is it 39A is like? Disgraceful. Especially for the 'motor city'.
No wonder the suspension in most domestics is spongey at best.
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Originally Posted by Vegassc400
No wonder the suspension in most domestics is spongey at best.
European automakers often give their U.S. export versions slightly softer suspensions because of the rougher roads here.....and because they know many Americans prefer ride comfort over handling. It also helps keep that new-car solidness longer......stiff suspensions, especially on rough roads, can put rattles and squeaks into a new car sooner.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Funny... I thought it was just government incompetence. Canada has in general excellent roads.
The issue of Canadian vs. Michigan road smoothness is much more complex than just government incompetence....though there is a little of that, too.

Though Toronto and the St. Lawrence River areas, like Detroit, do get snow, in general Canada's climate away from the Pacific Coast is much drier than that of the Eastern U.S, so moisture does not seep into cracks and freeze as readily. Traffic in most areas of Canada is also much lighter than in the U.S...........the country only has about one-tenth the population. There are nowhere as near as many heavy trucks to pound the road with 75,000-80,000 lb. loads. More durable paving materials are probably used. Canada's much higher taxes and much smaller road network allows more to be put into basic maintenence. Cars in general are smaller and lighter.....less pounding. Many Americans cross the border and spend money in Canada.....giving them even more income for maintenance. There are other factors as well, but I think you get the picture...it is not a simple comparison.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I lived in Canada and have been to Detroit many times so I know what it's like. I just couldn't believe what that road, is it 39A is like? Disgraceful. Especially for the 'motor city'.
Ah, the Southfield Freeway, a shame..............

Funny part, the Ford World HQ over looks it
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