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Old 06-23-04, 12:37 AM
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Saw this in MBWorld and thought my Lexus fellows would find this video informational too.
http://voodoo.theddrzone.com/images/...ries_probs.wmv
The BMW rep's blinking eyes and avoiding direct eye contact with the interviewer pretty much say it all.

Original MBWorld thread:
http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...threadid=73641

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Old 06-23-04, 12:52 AM
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Sad but nothing new (which is truly sad).
"one time, Johns 2002 7 died just 10 hours after leaving the dealer to be fixed previously".

"it's the car from hell, the worst piece of junk ever" (another dude)

sigh

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Old 06-23-04, 01:08 AM
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wow, so sad, but like sick said, so damn true. what the hell is wrong with bmw anyway, they can literally kill their flagship car like that?

"this car is from hell. this is the biggest piece of crap the company has ever made" i did not say this

and do you see how lame bmw is in making the guy's credit history look bad towards the end? this is completely lame. and that spokeman from bmw, he's just a total idiot.... all the problems are normal? gosh, in that case i am sure my lexus is sooooo abnormal.. i don't have a freaking problem on my car!
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This was what one of the MBWorld.org members posted.

POS cars bmws are.
Shouldn't really bash an entire brand line of cars if your own car brand's quality is going down the drain.
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when so many changes happen at once things are bound to go wrong.... but i hope it turns around and does well...
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This is sad.

I know you guys aren't interested in reading about Su. Ct. cases but just in case any one of you cares, there's a case dating back in 1990 called Gore v. BMW.

It's been a while since I read the case so my memory is vague. It has to do with BMW's selling partially repainted (I think BMW claimed that it's legitimate for them to re-paint cars that suffered less than 3% of damage during transportation and sell them as new) 7 series BMW as brand new cars.

The actual damage suffered by Dr. Gore was only a few thousand dollars. However, the Alabama jury awarded him punitive damages against BMW for several million dollars.

Su. Ct. ended up reversing the punitive damages because it thought that was unconscionable.

I wonder what would happen if someone files a suit against BMW again in 2004 and have this punitive damage issue taken up to the Su. Ct. again.

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What a typical car salesman
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Originally posted by BrickHead
What a typical car salesman
i say he's a very unsuccesssful one, he couldn't convince me nothing
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Originally posted by Baby ///M3
This is sad.

I know you guys aren't interested in reading about Su. Ct. cases but just in case any one of you cares, there's a case dating back in 1990 called Gore v. BMW.

It's been a while since I read the case so my memory is vague. It has to do with BMW's selling partially repainted (I think BMW claimed that it's legitimate for them to re-paint cars that suffered less than 3% of damage during transportation and sell them as new) 7 series BMW as brand new cars.

The actual damage suffered by Dr. Gore was only a few thousand dollars. However, the Alabama jury awarded him punitive damages against BMW for several million dollars.

Su. Ct. ended up reversing the punitive damages because it thought that was unconscionable.

I wonder what would happen if someone files a suit against BMW again in 2004 and have this punitive damage issue taken up to the Su. Ct. again.

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well i think that's still the case now though, that if a car has paint damage of less than certain %, they can repaint it and sell it as new?
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Old 06-23-04, 12:39 PM
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Yeap. You're correct.

But the percentage allowed for repainting a car was not the issue that the U.S. Su. Ct. considered in this case.

The Ct. actually ruled on the conscionability of the multi million dollar punitive damages against BMW.

Had BMW been the loser in Gore, it would probably have paid more attention in pleasing its customers ever since. Who knows?

Jon

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well i think that's still the case now though, that if a car has paint damage of less than certain %, they can repaint it and sell it as new?
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BMW sucks ***. All I hear about is model after model, year after year breaking in very rudimentary aspects, and the utter lack of accomodation from the dealership to the corporate offices. What a bunch of ******, what a bunch of piles... and now they don't even look good anymore! I'll stick to a company that knows how to get it right time after time.
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well at least i still want to get the m3 or m5
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Not after the redesign you won't...
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Originally posted by lex400sc
Not after the redesign you won't...
... i'll take the engines! .....
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Not after the redesign you won't...
well yeah i mean e46 m3 and e39 m5
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