I don’t know if everyone sees the same related topics but the one I see proves history does repeat itself.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...-canceled.html

 

I think the TLX SH AWD looks fantastic. Boring is definitely not a word I would associate with this car.

 

Stick to the topic. What solutions do you have to fix things?

It’s common knowledge reliability fell off a cliff. From the 1.5 engine disaster to mdx/tlx transfer cases blowing to sunroofs that explode etc etc and everything in between. Honda has fared a bit better but Acura has struggled for years. I went back to 2017 and Acura has one year above average.














FYI Hondas jet business has not make a profit since its inception in 2006 and it targeting its first profit in 2030. It is a cool plane.

We are not comparing Honda to Toyota. Otherwise it wouldn’t be a fair fight as Toyota is much larger, printing money and not claiming losses.

So again what ideas do you have to fix Honda?

 

Whatever your feelings are about TLX - it's irrelevant, since 2025 was the last year of production.

 

To each their own. Some people loves speed and a digitized car. Some people like me that's thrilled to drive a fast car that still feels like a car. Actually it doesnt even have to be fast, it just have to feel like a mechanical machine vs laptop on wheels that goes stupid fast. You drive out in a BMW M or AMG and people might take a quick glance at it and keep walking, but when you take out a unique Lexus, it will pique people's interests.

I wish Honda would bring out something out of the left field. If Toyota can make a GR Corolla, Honda can certainly make a AWD CTR. Just something, anything that gets enthusiasts talking about Honda again.

 

Because they are neighbors and competitors. If boring old Toyota can make cool products, why cant Honda?

 

Any carmaker that sells in the same segments has to be compared against each other. If you only compare size, then VW is the nearest competitor and they honestly dont really compete in the US.

Honda has to step out of their comfort zone. They have 4 main vehicles and everything else are derivatives of those vehicles. Civic, Accord, CRV and Pilot and almost every other model they sell are variations of those 3. Go rebadge a cool Isuzu or Suzuki bof suv from overseas and bring it here. Heck rebadge an overseas pickup truck. There are so many cool funky unobtaniums that we dont get here in the US. If Toyota does bring the FJ back, they will corner the bof suv market.

 

This topic is about Hondas issues and how to fix them. This topic isn’t to compare Toyota vs Honda which is also what @bitkahuna stated. If you or anyone else wants to start a thread on that topic, be my guest.

 

Speaking of... any inside word on what might be happening with the Odyssey? I've read this and that about an entirely new Odyssey to debut in 2026. Been thinking about replacing our Sienna with a new Honda.

 

They have the pilot platform ready to modify, but are lacking hybridization and battery at scale.

The Sienna made alot of lead engineers rethink what the modern family wants in their family do it all vehicle.

Hybridization, battery scaling, and cuvs galore are what will help usher in a new age. The other elephant in the room, is actually quite funny. They dont know how to scale upto large bof platforms.

Nissan does, toyota does, kiyundai does, but Honda doesnt. They are the best in the business in midsize cuvs and below class vehicles. That needs to change.

 

Well if you are Honda, why not look at the guy next to you and try to figure out what they are doing differently to be so much more successful? Why live on your own little island and tell yourself that everything is ok?

 

no one said they can't. they can (obviously, look at nsx and s2k), however just being able to is only small part of the equation. the whole execution has to done right in order for it to be successful AND profitable. and that's the main thing that honda has failed imho

 

The new Honda Passport Trailsport Elite is getting good predicted reliability and reviews. Naturally aspirated V6. And it looks great and is very appealing to me. Someday I may replace our 22 RX 350, and this might be a contender. I wish they made an Acura version.

 

Sony x Honda Afeela EVs Cooked

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...rs-2026-03-25/

 

came to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

i found out here:
https://honda-tech.com/articles/hond...nexpected-end/