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Adjusting for inflation, the MK4 Supra would cost today what the LC costs. The LC is leagues above better.
Heck Toyota can even take what they've done with the Lexus LC and really trim it down, make it cheaper but keep the V8 and go against the Mustang and Camaro.
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To be honest the Lexus LC should have been the MKV Supra instead of the BMW rebadge.Adjusting for inflation, the MK4 Supra would cost today what the LC costs. The LC is leagues above better.
Heck Toyota can even take what they've done with the Lexus LC and really trim it down, make it cheaper but keep the V8 and go against the Mustang and Camaro.
The LC is not what the Supra ever was. It's a 4500 LB grand tourer. It's a great car, but it's not a Supra.
Toyota/Lexus is certainly mistaken in not using the 2UR more than it did, but I think it should have been in more Lexus models. The Supra needs to be an I6, and Toyota doesn't make those anymore. Engineering one from the ground up for a car that sells a few thousand units a year doesn't make sense.
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LC is the successor to the SC 400. Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
The LC is not what the Supra ever was. It's a 4500 LB grand tourer. It's a great car, but it's not a Supra.
They should have shared platforms with the RC & MK5 Supra. That time has passed and they clearly realize the mistake they made.
Okay, materials still locked, but the Lexus Sports Concept is now being called the Lexus LFA Concept.
SHoooot, the Lexus LFA Concept is still a BEV
Lexus, today, world premiered the Lexus LFA Concept―a battery electric vehicle (BEV) sports car concept model.
Born from the strong conviction of Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) Chairman Akio Toyoda, aka Master Driver Morizo, that certain car-making techniques and skills must be preserved and passed on to the next generation, the Lexus LFA Concept is a BEV sports car concept model being developed alongside TOYOTA Gazoo Racing's GR GT and GR GT3. In the footsteps of the Toyota 2000GT and Lexus LFA, the Lexus LFA Concept embodies "Toyota's Shikinen Sengu*" for preserving and passing down techniques and skills from car-making veterans, and, based on the aspirations of those veterans, not only passes on such techniques and skills to the younger generation but also evolves them. While pursuing both driving performance and styling excellence, Lexus is striving in a one-team effort to create a BEV sports car that exceeds its customers' expectations.
Lexus intends to continue taking on the challenges of the future of car-making through ever-more refined electrification technologies and inherited techniques and skills.
Starting with elements such as a light, high-rigidity all-aluminum body frame and an ideal driving position that enhances a sense of car-driver unity and ease of handling, Lexus, as an electrification leader, has given form to a sports car fit for the electrification era, with a desire to deliver driving pleasure and demonstrate the potential of BEV sports cars. Its pursuit of optimal BEV packaging has resulted in a fusion of high-level driving performance, which stems from the GR GT and GR GT3, and styling of timeless value that will prevail well into the next generation.
Not bound to vehicles powered by internal combustion engines, "LFA" is a model name that symbolizes a vehicle model that embodies the technologies that engineers of its time should preserve and pass on to the next generation. From the past to the future―the Lexus LFA Concept is a testament to Lexus' taking on the challenge of continuing to preserve and pass on to the next generation the value of sports cars and must-retain car-making knowledge while striving to evolve such know-how.
The sense of immersion provided was born from the pursuit of achieving a high level of fusion between aerodynamic performance and sculptural beauty. Centered around the ideal driving position, the cockpit has been refined down to the minutest of details. The overall design―in which harmonized function and beauty transform operation into an extension of the driver's consciousness―deeply immerses the driver in the driving experience.
Lexus LFA Concept exterior
The entire interior has been crafted with simplicity, with refined functional components concentrated around the driver's seat, awakening a sense of elation once inside. The steering wheel was discerningly and suitably designed for use in a sports car, while steering operation that eliminates the need for regripping with a different hand, together with a switch layout that makes blind touch operation possible, enables intuitive vehicle control. Overall, a minimalist worldview that weaves together the appeal of mechanical design and a simple interior space creates a uniquely immersive environment.
Lexus LFA Concept interior
Lexus, today, world premiered the Lexus LFA Concept―a battery electric vehicle (BEV) sports car concept model.Born from the strong conviction of Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) Chairman Akio Toyoda, aka Master Driver Morizo, that certain car-making techniques and skills must be preserved and passed on to the next generation, the Lexus LFA Concept is a BEV sports car concept model being developed alongside TOYOTA Gazoo Racing's GR GT and GR GT3. In the footsteps of the Toyota 2000GT and Lexus LFA, the Lexus LFA Concept embodies "Toyota's Shikinen Sengu*" for preserving and passing down techniques and skills from car-making veterans, and, based on the aspirations of those veterans, not only passes on such techniques and skills to the younger generation but also evolves them. While pursuing both driving performance and styling excellence, Lexus is striving in a one-team effort to create a BEV sports car that exceeds its customers' expectations.
Lexus intends to continue taking on the challenges of the future of car-making through ever-more refined electrification technologies and inherited techniques and skills.
A next-generation BEV sports car that shares the aspirations behind the GR GT and GR GT3
The Lexus LFA Concept is a next-generation sports car concept model that embodies, along with the GR GT and GR GT3, "Toyota's Shikinen Sengu". Centered on the three key elements of a low center of gravity, low weight with high rigidity, and the pursuit of aerodynamic performance, it shares the techniques and skills used in developing the GR GT and GR GT3 while exploring the potential that is unique to BEVs.Starting with elements such as a light, high-rigidity all-aluminum body frame and an ideal driving position that enhances a sense of car-driver unity and ease of handling, Lexus, as an electrification leader, has given form to a sports car fit for the electrification era, with a desire to deliver driving pleasure and demonstrate the potential of BEV sports cars. Its pursuit of optimal BEV packaging has resulted in a fusion of high-level driving performance, which stems from the GR GT and GR GT3, and styling of timeless value that will prevail well into the next generation.
Not bound to vehicles powered by internal combustion engines, "LFA" is a model name that symbolizes a vehicle model that embodies the technologies that engineers of its time should preserve and pass on to the next generation. From the past to the future―the Lexus LFA Concept is a testament to Lexus' taking on the challenge of continuing to preserve and pass on to the next generation the value of sports cars and must-retain car-making knowledge while striving to evolve such know-how.
Discover Immersion―a new experience for being immersed in driving
The thrill of driving is an unwavering value that continues to support the appeal of sports cars, even as times change. The Lexus LFA Concept, as an entity that enables more deeply and purely enjoying that thrill, draws the driver into the world of driving and creates an immersive experience like no other before it. This is the essence of Discover Immersion.The sense of immersion provided was born from the pursuit of achieving a high level of fusion between aerodynamic performance and sculptural beauty. Centered around the ideal driving position, the cockpit has been refined down to the minutest of details. The overall design―in which harmonized function and beauty transform operation into an extension of the driver's consciousness―deeply immerses the driver in the driving experience.
Highly flexible packaging and beautifully balanced styling that is made possible precisely because the model is a BEV
The Lexus LFA Concept, while inheriting the sensual sculptural beauty of the Lexus LFA, pursues a refined styling balance of timeless value that will prevail well into the next generation. Basing it on the all-aluminum body frame of the GR GT has resulted in a form that maximizes sports car performance. Yet its low, flowing nose-to-rear silhouette inherits the Lexus LFA's sculptural beauty while defining the proportions of a classic coupe. It presents a new ideal form of sports car of universal appeal that transcends boundaries of nations, cultures, and time to stir the hearts of those who behold it.Lexus LFA Concept exterior
An ultimately immersive cockpit created by the ideal driving position
Featuring the same ideal driving position as the GR GT and GR GT3, the ultimately immersive cockpit enhances the sense of car-driver unity to deliver unprecedented driving pleasure.The entire interior has been crafted with simplicity, with refined functional components concentrated around the driver's seat, awakening a sense of elation once inside. The steering wheel was discerningly and suitably designed for use in a sports car, while steering operation that eliminates the need for regripping with a different hand, together with a switch layout that makes blind touch operation possible, enables intuitive vehicle control. Overall, a minimalist worldview that weaves together the appeal of mechanical design and a simple interior space creates a uniquely immersive environment.
Lexus LFA Concept interior
Lexus LFA Concept
The Lexus LFA Concept is a BEV sports car concept model, the exterior and interior of which were revealed as the "Lexus Sport Concept" at Monterey Car Week 2025 and the Japan Mobility Show 2025, that is now being announced anew with partial specifications and a new name.Lexus LFA Concept main specifications
Length (mm) 4,690 Width (mm) 2,040 Height (mm) 1,195 Wheelbase (mm) 2,725 Occupancy 2From Toyota Global:The GR GT, GR GT3, and Lexus LFA Concept were born from the conviction of Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) Chairman Akio Toyoda, aka Master Driver Morizo, that certain car-making skills must be preserved and passed on to the next generation. Together, the three models symbolize "Toyota's Shikinen Sengu".
Shikinen Sengu is a traditional Japanese shrine ritual during which a Shinto* shrine's core structures and elements are rebuilt every few decades. The ritual involves not only rebuilding the shrine itself but also recrafting its furnishings and ceremonial garments housed within. As such, it serves as a platform for artisans of a wide range of traditional Japanese crafts―including architecture, blacksmithing, and weaving―to pass on their skills to the next generation.
The three unveiled models are being positioned as TMC's flagship sports cars, in the footsteps of the Toyota 2000GT and Lexus LFA. They embody "Toyota's Shikinen Sengu" through the making of sports cars by preserving and passing on to the next generation fundamental car-making skills and incorporating new technologies. All three are being developed together under a shared philosophy centered on three key elements: a low center of gravity, low weight with high rigidity, and the pursuit of aerodynamic performance.
Master Driver Morizo urged the development team onward with calls of "I want you to go all out," and "I want you to push even further." In response, those involved overcame an unprecedented number of challenges across every domain, from development to manufacturing, including the adoption of Toyota-first new technologies.
Centered on front-engine, rear-wheel-drive vehicle packaging, the GR GT features a thoroughly low center of gravity and adopts Toyota's first all-aluminum body frame for low weight with high rigidity, as well as styling that gives paramount priority to aerodynamics. Its power unit is a newly developed 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo with dry-sump lubrication, and its drivetrain uses a carbon-fiber torque tube and a transaxle layout. The rear-located transaxle is equipped with an 8-speed automatic transmission, a single electric motor, and a mechanical, limited-slip differential. The result is driving performance that is easy to handle for drivers of all skill levels and that enables drivers to fully interact with the car.
Going beyond just aiming to make the GR GT3 a high-performance race car, TGR is also preparing to establish an optimal support system for customers competing in international GT3 series races.
For details on the GR GT and GR GT3, please refer to a related press release to be issued by TGR. For details on the Lexus LFA Concept, please refer to a related press release to be issued by Lexus. TGR and Lexus intend to continue to release information on the three models concerned as it becomes available.
Shikinen Sengu is a traditional Japanese shrine ritual during which a Shinto* shrine's core structures and elements are rebuilt every few decades. The ritual involves not only rebuilding the shrine itself but also recrafting its furnishings and ceremonial garments housed within. As such, it serves as a platform for artisans of a wide range of traditional Japanese crafts―including architecture, blacksmithing, and weaving―to pass on their skills to the next generation.
The three unveiled models are being positioned as TMC's flagship sports cars, in the footsteps of the Toyota 2000GT and Lexus LFA. They embody "Toyota's Shikinen Sengu" through the making of sports cars by preserving and passing on to the next generation fundamental car-making skills and incorporating new technologies. All three are being developed together under a shared philosophy centered on three key elements: a low center of gravity, low weight with high rigidity, and the pursuit of aerodynamic performance.
GR GT A new flagship pursuing overwhelming performance
The GR GT is a new flagship sports car that further advances TGR's philosophy of making ever-better motorsports-bred cars. A diverse range of drivers, including Master Driver Morizo, professional drivers Tatsuya Kataoka, Hiroaki Ishiura, and Naoya Gamo, gentleman driver Daisuke Toyoda, and in-house evaluation drivers, was involved in its development from the concept formulation stage. All aspects of development prioritized the driver's perspective, starting with the driving position. The model is still being refined, with drivers repeatedly putting it through the "hone, drive to failure, and repair" cycle, as with other GR products.Master Driver Morizo urged the development team onward with calls of "I want you to go all out," and "I want you to push even further." In response, those involved overcame an unprecedented number of challenges across every domain, from development to manufacturing, including the adoption of Toyota-first new technologies.
Centered on front-engine, rear-wheel-drive vehicle packaging, the GR GT features a thoroughly low center of gravity and adopts Toyota's first all-aluminum body frame for low weight with high rigidity, as well as styling that gives paramount priority to aerodynamics. Its power unit is a newly developed 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo with dry-sump lubrication, and its drivetrain uses a carbon-fiber torque tube and a transaxle layout. The rear-located transaxle is equipped with an 8-speed automatic transmission, a single electric motor, and a mechanical, limited-slip differential. The result is driving performance that is easy to handle for drivers of all skill levels and that enables drivers to fully interact with the car.
GR GT3A new FIA GT3-spec race car built with a driver-first approach
Based on the GR GT, the GR GT3 was engineered to compete in races worldwide. Created in accordance with FIA GT3 regulations―the top category for production-vehicle-based customer motorsports―it aims at being chosen by both professional and gentleman drivers who want to win, as well as being easy to drive for anyone behind the wheel. Its aluminum space-frame chassis, low-mount double wishbone suspension, and 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo engine are all drawn from the GR GT.Going beyond just aiming to make the GR GT3 a high-performance race car, TGR is also preparing to establish an optimal support system for customers competing in international GT3 series races.
Lexus LFA ConceptSights set on being a true BEV sports car
Created to be a true battery electric vehicle (BEV) sports car that exceeds customer expectations, the Lexus LFA Concept is a concept model that, like the GR GT and GR GT3, was developed under a one-team approach with Master Driver Morizo. It inherits and evolves the LFA's spirit, pursuing a balance of styling and driving performance. By leveraging technology and car-making skills that must be preserved, Lexus is transforming the perception that BEV sports cars are still in their infancy and is taking on the challenge of shaping the future of car-making.For details on the GR GT and GR GT3, please refer to a related press release to be issued by TGR. For details on the Lexus LFA Concept, please refer to a related press release to be issued by Lexus. TGR and Lexus intend to continue to release information on the three models concerned as it becomes available.
The GR GT and GR GT3 are flagship models that embody TGR's philosophy of building ever-better motorsports-bred cars. Their development―starting with the vehicle concept formulation stage―was advanced under a one-team approach centered on TMC Chairman Akio Toyoda, aka Master Driver Morizo, in which professional drivers Tatsuya Kataoka, Hiroaki Ishiura, and Naoya Gamou, gentleman driver Daisuke Toyoda, and in-house evaluation drivers worked in unison with engineers. The GR GT is defined by a driver-first approach to development that involves listening to, understanding, and fulfilling the needs of the person behind the wheel. The GR GT3―a race car based on the GR GT―was also developed in line with this methodology.
Positioned as flagships in the footsteps of the Toyota 2000GT of yesteryear and the Lexus LFA, one of the aims of the development of the GR GT and GR GT3 was to preserve and pass on "the secret sauce of car-making" to the next generation as "Toyota's Shikinen Sengu*". The two models are the result of veterans of development of the Lexus LFA transferring skills and techniques to younger members, the active adoption of new, Toyota-first technologies for enhanced vehicle performance, and the taking on of numerous unprecedented challenges.
Development of the GR GT, which is continuing, started with an aim to achieve a thoroughly low center of gravity by considering how to lower both overall vehicle height and the driver's position as much as possible. Attention was then paid to adopting a front-engine, rear-wheel-drive powertrain layout for ease of handling when driving the vehicle to its limit. The center of gravity of heavy components, such as the 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo engine with dry-sump lubrication, rear-mounted transaxle, and other major mechanisms, has been significantly lowered through optimized positioning. Both the driver's and car's centers of gravity have been made roughly identical by pursuing an ideal driving position aimed at enhancing the sense of car-driver unity and handling ease.
As for low weight with high rigidity, which constitutes the second key element, the GR GT features Toyota's first all-aluminum body frame. Additionally, the appropriate use of carbon fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP), plastic, and other materials in the body panels has resulted in a strong yet light body.
GR GT (Prototype)Exterior styling, in pursuit of aerodynamic performance, was also born from a process distinct from that of hitherto Toyota car-making. Although attention has conventionally been turned toward aerodynamics only after finalization of exterior styling, in the case of the GR GT, the ideal aerodynamic performance was established first, followed by consideration of exterior styling. Aerodynamics engineers and exterior designers worked together to achieve styling that pursues aerodynamic and cooling performance.
Interior styling, as well, was meticulously crafted without compromise, based on ergonomics aimed at achieving the optimal driving position from a professional driver's perspective and visibility needed for at-the-limit driving. Naturally, in addition to circuit driving, care has been taken to ensure suitability for everyday use.
GR GT3 (Prototype)The GR GT3 features the same three elements of a low center of gravity, low weight with high rigidity, and the pursuit of aerodynamic performance found in the GR GT, on which it is based. It meets the specifications of the Federation Internationale d'Automobile (FIA) GT3, which is the top category of production vehicle-based customer motorsports, and aims to be a car that is chosen by people who want to win yet be easy to drive for anyone.
TGR believes that its driver-first principle, just as it is important in the GR GT, is equally important in the GT3 race car category, which can find both professional drivers and gentleman drivers behind the wheel. At the same time, in addition to heightening the competitiveness of the GR GT3 as a car, TGR is also preparing to establish an optimal support system for customers who race to help them fully enjoy motorsports.
Like other GR models, the GR GT and GR GT3 have been repeatedly honed, driven to failure, and repaired to make them into models that will live up to all drivers' expectations. As it accelerates its efforts to make ever-better cars, TGR is continuing development of the GR GT and GR GT3 toward launching them around 2027. Further details are to be released as they become available.
Pursuit of the ideal driving position, coupled with consideration of interior styling, renewed awareness of the importance of ensuring sufficient visibility, as well as a sense of being protected. Particular attention was paid to excellent operability, with driving-related switches placed near the steering wheel and positioned and shaped for intuitive operation.
For ease of visual recognition even during circuit driving, substantial focus was also given to the gauges, for which the width, height, and position of information displays, such as the shift-up and gear selection indicators, were determined through a process of trial and error.
The engine's power is transmitted to the rear transaxle via a CFRP torque tube. In addition to a motor-generator, the transaxle integrates a newly developed 8-speed automatic transmission, which uses a wet-start clutch in place of a torque converter, and a mechanical limited-slip differential.
For overwhelming performance, the development target for maximum system output is 650 PS or greater, and the development target for maximum system torque is 850 Nm or greater. Also, the adoption of a rear transaxle and the optimal placement of the drive battery, fuel tank, and other heavy components have resulted in a 45:55 front-to-rear weight distribution, contributing to ease of vehicle handling.
Development of the powertrain involved advancing studies through the use of race development driving simulators and system benches onto which entire powertrain systems could be mounted, while consideration was also given to thermal management, mounting position, and serviceability. To ensure continued sales, development is being undertaken to comply with increasingly stringent emissions regulations. The GR GT3 also features a 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo engine―many of the structural components of which are shared with those of the engine in the GR GT.

The suspension features a newly designed, low-mounted double-wishbone system with forged aluminum arms at both the front and rear. Its characteristics were developed from scratch, with a focus on linear response and a high level of controllability, from everyday use to at-the-limit driving. The tires are Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires developed exclusively for the GR GT. Since the early stages of development, the design of both the suspension and the tires has involved working with professional drivers in the use of simulators and agilely conducting test runs and simulator evaluations in pursuit of optimal performance for the GR GT that will enable the driver to seamlessly interact with the car on circuits, as well as on winding and other public roads.
Brembo carbon discs are used in the brakes, and vehicle behavior control during braking was developed together with professional drivers. The GR GT's Vehicle Stability Control system allows multi-stage adjustment of driving force and braking control, enabling driver selection of the vehicle control difficulty level based on driving skill and encountered weather conditions for an enjoyable and secure driving experience. This setup is also used in TGR's Nürburgring 24-hour endurance race vehicles and is an example of technology honed through competing in motorsports.
Additionally, the basic structures of the aluminum space-frame chassis and front-and-rear double-wishbone suspension system have been developed so that many of their components can be shared with the GR GT3.
Positioned as flagships in the footsteps of the Toyota 2000GT of yesteryear and the Lexus LFA, one of the aims of the development of the GR GT and GR GT3 was to preserve and pass on "the secret sauce of car-making" to the next generation as "Toyota's Shikinen Sengu*". The two models are the result of veterans of development of the Lexus LFA transferring skills and techniques to younger members, the active adoption of new, Toyota-first technologies for enhanced vehicle performance, and the taking on of numerous unprecedented challenges.
Main features
3 key elements
The GR GT was conceptualized and developed as a road-legal race car. As a manifestation of insistence on pursuing a driver-first approach, development strived to not only endow the GR GT with a high level of dynamic performance but also to achieve a sense of car-driver unity, enabling the driver to interact with the vehicle at all times. The GR GT is equipped with a hybrid system that pairs a newly developed 4.0-liter, V8 twin-turbo engine and a single electric motor. In addition to maximum system output of 650 PS or greater and maximum system torque of 850 Nm or greater (development target values) for overwhelming performance, unrelenting focus was given to the three key elements of: a low center of gravity, low weight with high rigidity, and the pursuit of aerodynamic performance.Vehicle packaging for an ultimate low center of gravity
Development of the GR GT, which is continuing, started with an aim to achieve a thoroughly low center of gravity by considering how to lower both overall vehicle height and the driver's position as much as possible. Attention was then paid to adopting a front-engine, rear-wheel-drive powertrain layout for ease of handling when driving the vehicle to its limit. The center of gravity of heavy components, such as the 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo engine with dry-sump lubrication, rear-mounted transaxle, and other major mechanisms, has been significantly lowered through optimized positioning. Both the driver's and car's centers of gravity have been made roughly identical by pursuing an ideal driving position aimed at enhancing the sense of car-driver unity and handling ease.Adoption of Toyota's first all-aluminum body frame
As for low weight with high rigidity, which constitutes the second key element, the GR GT features Toyota's first all-aluminum body frame. Additionally, the appropriate use of carbon fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP), plastic, and other materials in the body panels has resulted in a strong yet light body.Use of a reverse approach to create styling that pursues aerodynamic performance
GR GT (Prototype)Exterior styling, in pursuit of aerodynamic performance, was also born from a process distinct from that of hitherto Toyota car-making. Although attention has conventionally been turned toward aerodynamics only after finalization of exterior styling, in the case of the GR GT, the ideal aerodynamic performance was established first, followed by consideration of exterior styling. Aerodynamics engineers and exterior designers worked together to achieve styling that pursues aerodynamic and cooling performance.Interior styling, as well, was meticulously crafted without compromise, based on ergonomics aimed at achieving the optimal driving position from a professional driver's perspective and visibility needed for at-the-limit driving. Naturally, in addition to circuit driving, care has been taken to ensure suitability for everyday use.
Aimed at being an FIA GT3-spec race car chosen by people who want to win
GR GT3 (Prototype)The GR GT3 features the same three elements of a low center of gravity, low weight with high rigidity, and the pursuit of aerodynamic performance found in the GR GT, on which it is based. It meets the specifications of the Federation Internationale d'Automobile (FIA) GT3, which is the top category of production vehicle-based customer motorsports, and aims to be a car that is chosen by people who want to win yet be easy to drive for anyone.TGR believes that its driver-first principle, just as it is important in the GR GT, is equally important in the GT3 race car category, which can find both professional drivers and gentleman drivers behind the wheel. At the same time, in addition to heightening the competitiveness of the GR GT3 as a car, TGR is also preparing to establish an optimal support system for customers who race to help them fully enjoy motorsports.
For making ever-better cars
The TGR flagship models GR GT and GR GT3 are defined not only by their adoption of new technologies but also by their having been created through the taking up of the challenge of using new development and manufacturing methods. In developing the GR GT and GR GT3, TGR employed multiple methodologies that leverage insights gained from competing in motorsports. The use of driving simulator-assisted vehicle research and development, which is now common in race car development, is an example of such. Introducing driving simulator use early in the development process enabled efficient refinement of fundamental vehicle characteristics from the outset. In addition to using simulators in the creation of each component, extensive real-world testing was done not only on test courses, such as the one at Toyota Technical Center Shimoyama, but also at circuits around the world, including Fuji Speedway and the Nürburgring, enabling verification of at-the-limit driving performance and durability. GT GR testing also took place on public roads to give the model the ability to provide exhilaration, ease of handling, and peace of mind in everyday use.Like other GR models, the GR GT and GR GT3 have been repeatedly honed, driven to failure, and repaired to make them into models that will live up to all drivers' expectations. As it accelerates its efforts to make ever-better cars, TGR is continuing development of the GR GT and GR GT3 toward launching them around 2027. Further details are to be released as they become available.
GR GT main specifications (prototype development targets, in-house measurements)
Body Length 4,820 mm Width 2,000 mm Height 1,195 mm Wheelbase 2,725 mm Body structure, cabin Frame All-aluminum body frame Occupancy 2 Vehicle weight Vehicle weight 1,750 kg or lower Front-rear weight distribution Front: 45; rear: 55 Powertrain Engine displacement 3,998 cc Engine bore x stroke 87.5 x 83.1 mm Engine type V8 Turbocharger Twin-turbo Electric motor Transaxle-integrated single-motor hybrid Transmission Newly developed 8-speed automatic Maximum system output 650 PS or greater Maximum system torque 850 Nm or greater Driving equipment, suspension & related items Drivetrain Front engine, rear-wheel drive Suspension Front Double wishbone with coil spring Rear Double wishbone with coil spring Brakes Front Carbon ceramic disc brake Rear Carbon ceramic disc brake Tire size Front: 265/35ZR20; rear: 325/30ZR20 Other Top speed 320 km/h or greaterGR GT3 main specifications (prototype development targets, in-house measurements)
Body Length 4,785 mm Width 2,050 mm Height 1,090 mm Powertrain Engine displacement 3,998 cc Engine type V8 Turbocharger Twin-turbo Driving equipment Drivetrain Front engine, rear-wheel driveAs the GR GT and GR GT3 announced today are still under development, various details are subject to change without notice.Link to the "GR GT" webpage
Link to the "GR GT3" webpage
Technologies incorporated into the GR GT
Exterior styling that pursues aerodynamic and cooling performance
The GR GT's styling was developed under an "aerodynamics first" concept in which aerodynamics engineers and exterior designers worked as a single team. With the GR GT boasting a top speed in excess of 320 kilometers per hour, aerodynamic performance was one of the most vital concerns. Whereas in conventional production vehicle development exterior styling is set before consideration of aerodynamic efficiency and cooling performance, the GR GT's being envisioned as a road-legal race car required a rethinking of the process. Aerodynamics engineers experienced in FIA WEC competition vehicle development joined the GR GT development team and engaged in thorough discussions with vehicle designers, leading to the establishment of overall vehicle packaging based on an "aerodynamic model", which represented the aerodynamic design team's proposal for the ideal form. It was only after such that exterior designers prepared design sketches with mass production in mind, eventually leading to finalization of vehicle styling in a process that was the reverse of the normal approach.Interior styling that prioritizes functionality and operability
The GR GT's interior styling centered on prioritizing driving position and visibility above all else in an effort to achieve an optimal design that would be suitable for both professional and gentleman drivers, as well as for both circuit and daily use.Pursuit of the ideal driving position, coupled with consideration of interior styling, renewed awareness of the importance of ensuring sufficient visibility, as well as a sense of being protected. Particular attention was paid to excellent operability, with driving-related switches placed near the steering wheel and positioned and shaped for intuitive operation.
For ease of visual recognition even during circuit driving, substantial focus was also given to the gauges, for which the width, height, and position of information displays, such as the shift-up and gear selection indicators, were determined through a process of trial and error.
Newly developed 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo engine + rear transaxle
The GR GT's 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo engine, which is TMC's first to be fitted in a production vehicle, was developed based on a "thoroughly compact and light" design concept toward achieving the GR GT's "packaging of low overall height and a low center of gravity". With a bore and stroke of 87.5 x 83.1, the engine's short stroke reduces overall engine height, while its hot V configuration positions one of its two turbos in each engine bank. The engine also features dry-sump lubrication and an oil pan that has been made thinner than usual.The engine's power is transmitted to the rear transaxle via a CFRP torque tube. In addition to a motor-generator, the transaxle integrates a newly developed 8-speed automatic transmission, which uses a wet-start clutch in place of a torque converter, and a mechanical limited-slip differential.
For overwhelming performance, the development target for maximum system output is 650 PS or greater, and the development target for maximum system torque is 850 Nm or greater. Also, the adoption of a rear transaxle and the optimal placement of the drive battery, fuel tank, and other heavy components have resulted in a 45:55 front-to-rear weight distribution, contributing to ease of vehicle handling.
Development of the powertrain involved advancing studies through the use of race development driving simulators and system benches onto which entire powertrain systems could be mounted, while consideration was also given to thermal management, mounting position, and serviceability. To ensure continued sales, development is being undertaken to comply with increasingly stringent emissions regulations. The GR GT3 also features a 4-liter, V8 twin-turbo engine―many of the structural components of which are shared with those of the engine in the GR GT.
An enjoyable sound at all times, from engine start to acceleration and deceleration
The GR GT delivers not only high-level performance but also the distinctive racing sound of a V8 twin-turbo engine. Sound development was centered on two pillars: creating sound that enables interaction with the car and creating sound that conveys changes in thermal energy. The structure of the exhaust pipe has been meticulously crafted to produce sound that synchronizes with the state of the vehicle.
An all-aluminum body frame and a chassis that prioritizes ease of at-the-limit handling
The mainstay of the GR GT's low weight with high rigidity is Toyota's first all-aluminum body frame. A high level of rigidity has been achieved by positioning large aluminum castings in the frame's main structure, as well as through the optimal placement of aluminum extrusions and other components, along with the use of advanced joining technologies. Additionally, the model's body panels are made of aluminum and CFRP.The suspension features a newly designed, low-mounted double-wishbone system with forged aluminum arms at both the front and rear. Its characteristics were developed from scratch, with a focus on linear response and a high level of controllability, from everyday use to at-the-limit driving. The tires are Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires developed exclusively for the GR GT. Since the early stages of development, the design of both the suspension and the tires has involved working with professional drivers in the use of simulators and agilely conducting test runs and simulator evaluations in pursuit of optimal performance for the GR GT that will enable the driver to seamlessly interact with the car on circuits, as well as on winding and other public roads.
Brembo carbon discs are used in the brakes, and vehicle behavior control during braking was developed together with professional drivers. The GR GT's Vehicle Stability Control system allows multi-stage adjustment of driving force and braking control, enabling driver selection of the vehicle control difficulty level based on driving skill and encountered weather conditions for an enjoyable and secure driving experience. This setup is also used in TGR's Nürburgring 24-hour endurance race vehicles and is an example of technology honed through competing in motorsports.
Additionally, the basic structures of the aluminum space-frame chassis and front-and-rear double-wishbone suspension system have been developed so that many of their components can be shared with the GR GT3.
Welp, I think it's fair to say that Lexus F as we experience from the LFA through the IS F, RC F, GS F, LC 500 and IS 500 is done.
Toyota is now going to be the flagship sports car maker for the brand
Akio Toyoda talked about how he was embarrassed that 1) the LFA didn't do better and 2) that it wasn't a Toyota.
Toyota is now going to be the flagship sports car maker for the brand
Akio Toyoda talked about how he was embarrassed that 1) the LFA didn't do better and 2) that it wasn't a Toyota.
GR-GT looks like a very pleasant place to sit in and drive
Exterior design is in the polarizing zone
Feels like they did a lot to keep cost down while balancing the performance and driving experience
Aluminum instead of CF, TTV8, Hybrid limited to a torque fill motor, auto tranny instead of DCT
At least they sprung for carbo ceramic brakes
Still feels like it could be $300K but $200K would be a gift to enthusiasts
Exterior design is in the polarizing zone
Feels like they did a lot to keep cost down while balancing the performance and driving experience
Aluminum instead of CF, TTV8, Hybrid limited to a torque fill motor, auto tranny instead of DCT
At least they sprung for carbo ceramic brakes
Still feels like it could be $300K but $200K would be a gift to enthusiasts
pretty much a toyota version of the last gen AMG GT throwing in the hybrid. Cant really compare it with the new AMG GT since it became a giant pig (near 4400#) sharing the SL platform
Wow what a HUGE disappointment after YEARS of waiting and all of the delays……
#1 - I’m happy Toyota made a dedicated sports car. Therefore I give them some credit here.
GR GT - why does it look hideous?!
Cant they hire someone from Aston Martin or Maserati.
The rear of the car is atrocious.
The interior is forgettable.
The seats are cool but straight from LFA.
The engine only make 640hp with 2 turbos and hybrid 👎
This thing weighs 4,000 lbs.
What exactly is the target buyer?
Lexus version - Nice styling but EV only?! 🤬
Everyone should run and buy new LC500!
#1 - I’m happy Toyota made a dedicated sports car. Therefore I give them some credit here.
GR GT - why does it look hideous?!
Cant they hire someone from Aston Martin or Maserati.
The rear of the car is atrocious.
The interior is forgettable.
The seats are cool but straight from LFA.
The engine only make 640hp with 2 turbos and hybrid 👎
This thing weighs 4,000 lbs.
What exactly is the target buyer?
Lexus version - Nice styling but EV only?! 🤬
Everyone should run and buy new LC500!
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Not even, it's the same concept car that was debuted months ago. It could be powered by pixie dust for all that matters unless it actually goes to production.Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Lexus version - Nice styling but EV only?! 🤬
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They take a concept branded as "Lexus Sport Concept" and rename it to "LFA" for this event. Clearly that name means nothing to them 😭Originally Posted by Motorola
Not even, it's the same concept car that was debuted months ago. It could be powered by pixie dust for all that matters unless it actually goes to production.






















