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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 10:04 AM
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I have never considered or wanted a 3rd row.

If I have that many people to transport we can take separate cars. Lol
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
find a way to make the GLB into a GLC and that would be my vote... just the idea of going from LS 460 to a transverse FWD platform seriously bums me out lol
I agree on this. I always have liked the GLC, both the current and the previous generation. I hate the GLB so much I won't even accept them as loaners.
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I agree on this. I always have liked the GLC, both the current and the previous generation. I hate the GLB so much I won't even accept them as loaners.
Saw a Mercedes GLB yesterday.
Looks a little dorky but not too bad.
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 10:12 AM
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Saw a Mercedes GLB yesterday.
Looks a little dorky but not too bad.
They are just incredibly cheap feeling, don't drive especially well, uncomfortable...
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 10:22 AM
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They are just incredibly cheap feeling, don't drive especially well, uncomfortable...

Couldn't be any more unpleasant than the GLA.
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 10:28 AM
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Couldn't be any more unpleasant than the GLA.
Its basically exactly the same vehicle. Interior is identical etc, just a little larger.
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RofH
I understand your history with Honda, but I've had great success with our past MDXs when we had growing kiddos and their friends.

2015, 2018-2020 seem to be the most reliable years and then again starting in 2022 onwards, so far...

They should all have CarPlay and AA (except for 2015?).

Comfortable seats and storage for future use hauling around growing kiddo to practices, games, etc. and can also have friends to share rides to/from practices with other parents.

My two cents anyway... Good Luck with your search
I am actually considering a late model Pilot/MDX, I forgot to add that to the list.

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I personally would have a hard time going from an LS460 to any of these cars, except perhaps the Aviator...

What about a Genesis GV70 or GV80?
No 3rd row in those

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2nd gen Sequoia
eww.

Originally Posted by Striker223
At least get an LX570 lol!

Also consider a L405 EWB Range Rover, that's a very good SUV
No Range Rovers/Land Rovers/Jags. Absolutely not.

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It's probably going to be difficult to get into some of those vehicles that you listed for only 30K, even if they are several years old.

Have you considered a used Hyundai Palisade or Kia Telluride? (same platform) Or a Buick Enclave/Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia? Those big GM crossovers are very comfortable, roomy, and refined to drive, although the transmissions in them are not necessarily the most reliable.
I like the palisades but Kia/Hyundai still doesn't have the greatest track record for reliability. And in the used market? I'd just rather not. And the 3.6L engine in the GM products you mentioned is one of the most unreliable engines in GM's history.

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I have never considered or wanted a 3rd row.

If I have that many people to transport we can take separate cars. Lol
One of the most annoying things to me is taking separate cars for soccer games/cheer/dinner with friends.

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Rovers are very reliable in that generation or newer, the only thing you need to do is make sure you buy the V8 and use euro spec oil not the us recommendation.

Transmissions are ZF8s, suspension is simple and well supported air ride that doesn't have many issues at all and will not cost and arm and a leg like AHC will on the Toyota/lexus products when you need accumulators replaced or blow a line from rust. I have yet another LX at my shop with said issues at only 90k miles but rust is the bane of Toyotas

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GV80 can be had with a third row



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Originally Posted by Striker223
Rovers are very reliable in that generation or newer, the only thing you need to do is make sure you buy the V8 and use euro spec oil not the us recommendation.

Transmissions are ZF8s, suspension is simple and well supported air ride that doesn't have many issues at all and will not cost and arm and a leg like AHC will on the Toyota/lexus products when you need accumulators replaced or blow a line from rust. I have yet another LX at my shop with said issues at only 90k miles but rust is the bane of Toyotas
Rust is not a factor in North Texas. JLR products are anything but reliable these days. I have 3 neighbors with range rovers and all of them have had electrical gremlins and one has had to have the rear differential replaced already at 42,000 miles.

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GV80 can be had with a third row

I did not know this!

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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ArmyofOne
Rust is not a factor in North Texas. JLR products are anything but reliable these days. I have 3 neighbors with range rovers and all of them have had electrical gremlins and one has had to have the rear differential replaced already at 42,000 miles.
I know lots of people with Range Rovers and none of them have any problems. Not something I would buy used and keep a long time, but I would lease one without hesitation.

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I did not know this!
Yep, GV80 is a great option
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ArmyofOne
One of the most annoying things to me is taking separate cars for soccer games/cheer/dinner with friends.
Not me.
I just light up a cigar and whoever wants to ride with me can.

Or they can take their own car. Haha
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I like having a 3 row vehicle. I have two kids and we go places with my mother, 3 rows makes that more comfortable. We do things with our neighbors and their daughter, we can all take one car. Taking one car places like that is more fun. Like tonight we are all going out to a christmas light and smores event and we will all pile in the Pacifica. I think we will always have one three row vehicle, at least until the kids are gone.
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Old Nov 21, 2025 | 12:19 PM
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I hear you. I had an RX330 bought in 2005 that I got rid of last year. It had over 220,000 miles and was still in good shape. The paint was peeling and was having minor problems. It had the famous Toyota power steering leak. I replaced the leaking high pressure line 5 years ago. 3 years later it started leaking from the rack. At the same time the CV bit was torn and started to click. Then the sway bar was shot and the control arm. I replaced it all and still didn’t drive right. Alignment done and still creaking at times. All the bushings everything was new and still felt wonky. The valve cover gaskets went out and oil was spraying everywhere as well as the power steering fluid. Fluids were hitting the exhaust manifold and smoking everywhere. Being a V6 fwd it was a nightmare to work on. So much stuff under the hood to remove for minor repairs.

i gave up and got rid of it.
The oldest car I have is a 20 year old Solara. Still runs good. Valve cover gasket was leaking but being a 4 cylinder it was a breeze to work on. I will hold on to that car for a long time.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
It's probably going to be difficult to get into some of those vehicles that you listed for only 30K, even if they are several years old.

Have you considered a used Hyundai Palisade or Kia Telluride? (same platform) Or a Buick Enclave/Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia? Those big GM crossovers are very comfortable, roomy, and refined to drive, although the transmissions in them are not necessarily the most reliable.


Originally Posted by Margate330
I have never considered or wanted a 3rd row.

If I have that many people to transport we can take separate cars. Lol
For cargo space.

Originally Posted by ArmyofOne
I am actually considering a late model Pilot/MDX, I forgot to add that to the list.





eww.





I like the palisades but Kia/Hyundai still doesn't have the greatest track record for reliability. And in the used market? I'd just rather not. And the 3.6L engine in the GM products you mentioned is one of the most unreliable engines in GM's history.


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Forgot about the Pilot/MDX. Skip the models that had the 9spd transmission.

2nd Sequoia will give you 10+ yrs of reliability as long as you don’t let striker drive it😆

And I agree with you on Kia/Hyundai and GM products. Wouldn’t trust any of them to go to 10yrs especially or an additional 10yrs already used without issues.

How bout RX hybrid? Highlander hybrid?
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