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Your first track day, you’re going to drop transmission and diff at the track between sessions. 🤣
Lexus/Toyota, park and drive 😆
Yeah except the Audis don't need attention vs the Lexus cars often needed wheels re-torqued (LS430) or low on oil (LS 430 and sequoia and the LS460 prior to leak repair on that one) or other stupid annoyances.
I still check everything though since that's what the manual says to do and as a result I have never had compounding problems. I also use parking brakes as prescribed lol!
(Gear awareness/maintenance that I practice is from my other hobbies tbh)
Although I’m not the type to periodically check oil levels, I would like to be able to look at it and see ok it could use a quart or 2 instead of waiting until the “low oil” light illuminates.
It will tell you when you are exactly one quart low, well before there is any risk of damage. You would have to be down around a gallon for a traditional "low oil" light to come on, because it is driven by the oil pressure sensor.
Well, once again, if you had read the rest of what I said, I said it would probably not be a deal-breaker, but that it would likely be something that customers would not like. And I myself had a Lacrosse with a shifter I did not like, and that I thought was poorly-designed, but I liked most of the rest of the car.
I read it. You said "may not" be a deal-breaker; which means it also "may" be a deal-breaker. But you must not have read what I wrote, which was that they would not lose a sale; which means it would definitively NOT be a deal-breaker.
You are your own perfect example--you bought a car with a different style gearshift, complained it was not what you are used to, you lived with it, got used to it, and learned it was no big deal.
I experienced it at NYC auto show on Friday. That grill is ridiculous, side and rear looks fine like a Range Rover, and the interior is top notch. I didn't like the interior design in pictures but it works in person. It definitely delivers a premium experience on the inside.
Didn't get to dig into features as the family and kids were running off to the next thing as usual but I did get to take a quick wide angle video of the interior. https://streamable.com/2fvski
What I did see though was a rear sunroof that at minimum tilts open (I think? There were more than a couple sunroof buttons up there), you can fold and unfold the 2nd and 3rd row rear seats with 1 button, and the driver's seat has leg extensions like the EV's for full recline.
Glad my cousin got rid of her Palisade. Need to find out what she replaced it with. All I was told is she has a smaller SUV so I’m assuming no 3rd row.
Jill’s brother enters the chat. LOVES his Palisade, but claims that the vehicle is not as well build as their Toyota. And fuel economy doesn’t live up to expectations. But the ancient 3.8 V6 is nice to have.
Jill’s sister enters the chat. LOVES her Telluride. Same thing with the ancient 3.8 V6…superb love ❤️
Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, once again, if you had read the rest of what I said, I said it would probably not be a deal-breaker, but that it would likely be something that customers would not like. And I myself had a Lacrosse with a shifter I did not like, and that I thought was poorly-designed, but I liked most of the rest of the car.
Lacrosse had that dumb start stop that one couldn’t turn off Just a bad design. But at least it has a nice big smooth and slick six cylinder
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Yeah except the Audis don't need attention vs the Lexus cars often needed wheels re-torqued (LS430) or low on oil (LS 430 and sequoia and the LS460 prior to leak repair on that one) or other stupid annoyances.
I still check everything though since that's what the manual says to do and as a result I have never had compounding problems. I also use parking brakes as prescribed lol!
(Gear awareness/maintenance that I practice is from my other hobbies tbh)
I’ve been using them on every vehicle.
Can’t use them at track though
Originally Posted by geko29
It will tell you when you are exactly one quart low, well before there is any risk of damage. You would have to be down around a gallon for a traditional "low oil" light to come on, because it is driven by the oil pressure sensor.
Gotcha. Thx
Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
looks like Hyundai copied Range Rover
Jill’s brother enters the chat. LOVES his Palisade, but claims that the vehicle is not as well build as their Toyota. And fuel economy doesn’t live up to expectations. But the ancient 3.8 V6 is nice to have.
Jill’s sister enters the chat. LOVES her Telluride. Same thing with the ancient 3.8 V6…superb love ❤️
Bayeaux cousin enters chat. Had no issues with her 100k mile Palisade. Traded for a new one before potential tariffs.
Last edited by BayeauxLex; Apr 21, 2025 at 10:38 AM.
Jill’s brother enters the chat. LOVES his Palisade, but claims that the vehicle is not as well build as their Toyota. And fuel economy doesn’t live up to expectations. But the ancient 3.8 V6 is nice to have.
Jill’s sister enters the chat. LOVES her Telluride. Same thing with the ancient 3.8 V6…superb love ❤️
Most people who own Kia and Hyundai products are quite satisfied with them. That is why the negative press in the media is overblown.
Lacrosse had that dumb start stop that one couldn’t turn off Just a bad design. But at least it has a nice big smooth and slick six cylinder
That was a quirk with many GM products before about 2020 or so....not just the Lacrosse. I wasn't wild about it, but I found some ways to defeat, lessen its effect, and/or get around it by some gentle footwork on the brake and gas pedals.
Not really. The automotive press is generally favorable, but the mainstream media tends to dwell (and, IMO, over-dwell) on the engine and theft/break-in problems....just like your own endless posts on the recalls.
Part of the trouble is that Hyundai and Kia dealerships themselves appear to be inconsistent....some are excellent, and others border on terrible. My brother, for example, has had excellent luck with Kias purchased from a specific local dealership and their service......and bitkahuna, in Florida, seems quite satisfied with his Hyundai and Genesis experience there. But the stories at some other dealerships, at least according to the Kia forums my brother follows, have been just awful.
Last edited by mmarshall; Apr 21, 2025 at 05:57 PM.
Like I try and order parts and repeatedly get left on hold for over 30 min, they don't actually remember to order, have a severe attitude the whole time, and don't deliver to shops so I have to go there myself.
I absolutely hate dealing with them and try my hardest to have customers be okay with me ordering parts online for lower costs. Sometimes they need it fast though and I'm forced to go over there
But the stories at some other dealerships, at least according to the Kia forums my brother follows, have beenjust awful
Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Like what?.
Part of the problem is that Kia is a victim of their own success. They are selling so many vehicles now in the U.S. that it is difficult for some dealerships to keep up with the service and parts-load. That's why my brother has been fortunate to have as good a Kia dealership as he does. It is owned by the Congressman who represents his district....who, of course, as a politician, lawyer and politician, also has a buisness-image to keep up.
but I did get to take a quick wide angle video of the interior.
Just a bad design. But at least it has a nice big smooth and slick six cylinder 
