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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
We all need cheat codes in life.
Except when it hurts others of course.

I'm all about the cheat code for saving time and money when appropriate. 😁 🫸🫷 💯
My life is one big cheat code 🤣
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Went to dinner and had a contrasting vehicle next to mine when I came out lol

Oh I’d take that LC 500 over the Model S if I could fit in it. Sucks being tall! I’d take an LS 500 over both of them.

I like physical controls in my cars and the Model S interior is a disaster.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
No you bought OE parts, OEM is the same exact part in the actual factory box vs the brand box. There is a massive difference there in price since you just don't have that option with Lexus....
No, I have bought Mercedes OEM parts in Mercedes boxes, thank you.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
Oh I’d take that LC 500 over the Model S if I could fit in it. Sucks being tall! I’d take an LS 500 over both of them.

I like physical controls in my cars and the Model S interior is a disaster.
What are talking about? The interior is really good




By every logical measurement, from practicality, tech, performance and efficiency the Model S is a better car. My opinion of course

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
only striker says mercedes cars are more reliable with cheaper parts than lexus.

about the ls400 and s-class at that time, the refinement of the lexus v8 and nvh isolation plus build quality were huge factors in perceived quality/reliability too.
I love my Mercedes but the idea that they are more reliable with cheaper parts is total nonsense lol

$2,200 for brakes vs $700 on the LS lol. OEM parts in a Mercedes box!

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I love my Mercedes but the idea that they are more reliable with cheaper parts is total nonsense lol

$2,200 for brakes vs $700 on the LS lol.
Gotta pay to play
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Gotta pay to play
Happy to! It’s just not cheaper!
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I’m in Orlando and we have a new Carnival rental. Rides nice, comfortable. GREAT lane centering, better than the Mercedes and it will lane center even without the radar cruise on if you want. Not as solid or premium feeling as the hybrid Pacifica, also the cargo area with the seats down is all lumpy and annoying. Drives better than a gas Pacifica though. Great V6…
Old Apr 11, 2025 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
No, I have bought Mercedes OEM parts in Mercedes boxes, thank you.
Those are OE parts then, you don't know the definition of OEM parts it seems. OEM is the same maker/factory as the OE parts minus the dealership/brand box.

Lexus doesn't have that option for a lot of parts
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
What are talking about? The interior is really good




By every logical measurement, from practicality, tech, performance and efficiency the Model S is a better car. My opinion of course
Thats not a good interior....utterly forgettable and generic with no exotic materials or forms.

Just look at the inside of an LC vs that or the current 7 series or S class and you will see what a high end interior is supposed to look like. The Model S is generic and forgettable
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I love my Mercedes but the idea that they are more reliable with cheaper parts is total nonsense lol

$2,200 for brakes vs $700 on the LS lol. OEM parts in a Mercedes box!
You have a mid level car, not the base car brake size.

To make it a fair comparison use a base s class or a large brake LS, the prices are higher with the LS as you don't know who makes them. For Mercedes we know who makes the brakes and can order from the factory label instead of dealer box.

If I bought Audi boxed brakes I would have spent $3300 on parts, I paid $1200 for exact same with same QR codes stamped on the parts. Can't do that with Lexus
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Thats not a good interior....utterly forgettable and generic with no exotic materials or forms.

Just look at the inside of an LC vs that or the current 7 series or S class and you will see what a high end interior is supposed to look like. The Model S is generic and forgettable
It's not a luxury vehicle, I wouldn't compare it to one. I was comparing it to the driving experience of the LC, which its better than. Performance wise, as well as practicality none of those car you mentioned comes close. It's definitely not S class or 7 series comfortable, but it's also half the cost of those cars who are in a different demographic. I'm not a luxury car buyer, so S Class and 7 series would never be on my list. Comparing it to the LC, it's a way better driving experience, and I stand by that 1000 percent

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
It's not a luxury vehicle, I wouldn't compare it to one. I was comparing it to the driving experience of the LC, which its better than. Performance wise, as well as practicality none of those car you mentioned comes close. It's definitely not S class or 7 series comfortable, but it's also half the cost of those cars who are in a different demographic. I'm not a luxury car buyer, so S Class and 7 series would never be on my list. Comparing it to the LC, it's a way better driving experience, and I stand by that 1000 percent
Uh if it's not a luxury car then why did you bring it up vs the LC?
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Uh if it's not a luxury car then why did you bring it up vs the LC?
I didn't, I only stated in an earlier post that if I had to chose one or the other, it would be the Model S. The LC is a car I would own because it's more for enthusiasts than luxury owners. Luxury owners for example wouldn't want a loud V8 that revs to 7000 rpm. Bitkahuna is a perfect example...he bought the LC because of its sporty nature. I don't think he would buy an S Class of 7 series

In other words, I would pick the Model S because of it's better performance and practicality over the LC, nothing to do with luxury

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
What are talking about? The interior is really good




By every logical measurement, from practicality, tech, performance and efficiency the Model S is a better car. My opinion of course
That interior looks horrible to me. Give me wood! Give me a real steering wheel! Give me turn signal and wiper stalks! Give me a real gearshift ****! Give me real gauges! There’s not even any seat back pockets on the backs of the front seats.

At least they added ventilated seats with the refresh though so at least it’s more comfortable. But they took away so much functionality with the controls. And minimalism just doesn’t do it for me.



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