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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 11:21 AM
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i think 'reliable' is irrelevant today because all cars are EXTREMELY reliable. are there recalls and confusing over infotainment? sure. but do modern cars leave you stranded? HARDLY EVER.

satisfying is subjective... some like a comfy barge, and some like a tight rocket. and everything in between.
This 100%. Gone are the days of a relatively new car leaving you stranded regularly. Maybe a fluke breakdown but that's statistically very unlikely. Occasionally a manufacturing defect like the V35A in the Tundra.




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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i think 'reliable' is irrelevant today because all cars are EXTREMELY reliable. are there recalls and confusing over infotainment? sure. but do modern cars leave you stranded? HARDLY EVER.

satisfying is subjective... some like a comfy barge, and some like a tight rocket. and everything in between.
This. Modern stuff is across the board is amazingly good, "unreliable" these days is usually stupid stuff like software issues or minor suspension noise etc.

It's near unheard of now to have engine failure under 70k miles on the worst offenders even and before that was considered good lifespan. I know plenty of boomers who are in fear they are nearing 50k miles and always talk about "it's so old and miles are up there now"
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i think 'reliable' is irrelevant today because all cars are EXTREMELY reliable. are there recalls and confusing over infotainment? sure. but do modern cars leave you stranded? HARDLY EVER.

satisfying is subjective... some like a comfy barge, and some like a tight rocket. and everything in between.

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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
This 100%. Gone are the days of a relatively new car leaving you stranded regularly. Maybe a fluke breakdown but that's statistically very unlikely. Occasionally a manufacturing defect like the V35A in the Tundra.
Ford is off to a great start in 2025

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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
This 100%. Gone are the days of a relatively new car leaving you stranded regularly. Maybe a fluke breakdown but that's statistically very unlikely. Occasionally a manufacturing defect like the V35A in the Tundra.
I was going to respond Bit should go look on tundras.com under the 3rd gen forum about new vehicle failures. I even want to say someone new Sequoia engine failed.

With that being said, I inquired about renting a new Tundra tomorrow to tow with
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
I was going to respond Bit should go look on tundras.com under the 3rd gen forum about new vehicle failures. I even want to say someone new Sequoia engine failed.

With that being said, I inquired about renting a new Tundra tomorrow to tow with
Would you be towing a roughly 5500 lb object home from a place that sells lots of similar objects?
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Would you be towing a roughly 5500 lb object home from a place that sells lots of similar objects?


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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 05:01 PM
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Let us know how it performs!!!
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 05:14 PM
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Now I'm curious 🤔
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 05:20 PM
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Let us know how it performs!!!
it is a big disappointment that full time 4WD is not offered on the Tundra. Part-time 4Wd is primitive. Only the best have full time 4WD. There is no fuel economy penalty with Toyota full time 4WD

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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
it is a big disappointment that full time 4WD is not offered on the Tundra. Part-time 4Wd is primitive. Only the best have full time 4WD
Part-time 4WD, which locks up all four wheels at the same rotation speed, is durable and useful off-road...which is why it was the only system offered on the Jeep Wrangler for many years. But, yes, for most of today's driving, electronic full-time 4WD, On-Demand 4WD, or AWD is a far better choice. The part-time system cannot be used on dry pavement unless you don't go around any corners, because doing do can scrub the tires and/or cause driveline stress/damage.

I'm not going to make any excuses for Toyota on this one.....they just don't want to spend the money to put an up-to-date system in some of their trucks.

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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
it is a big disappointment that full time 4WD is not offered on the Tundra. Part-time 4Wd is primitive. Only the best have full time 4WD. There is no fuel economy penalty with Toyota full time 4WD
Once again you show that you don't know how trucks are used but that you know better what truck owners need. Stick to your 4runner for the coffee runs.
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Once again you show that you don't know how trucks are used but that you know better what truck owners need. Stick to your 4runner for the coffee runs.
‘lol. Full-time funny.




Ford offers outside the USA. 2024 Ranger added it.


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I'm not going to make any excuses for Toyota on this one.....they just don't want to spend the money to put an up-to-date system in some of their trucks.
Toyota Sequoia doesn’t have it either. 1st and 2nd Gen offered it. Crazy 🤪

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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Once again you show that you don't know how trucks are used but that you know better what truck owners need. Stick to your 4runner for the coffee runs.
Coffee or no coffee, Jill's got a point, Frank. For most pickup owners today, under most driving conditions, the automatic 4WD/AWD systems are a much better and more practical choice.
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 05:50 PM
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Question: Driving in bad weather can I drive on highway in 4WD while towing?

This is in a Tundra

@AJT123 I need to borrow your LX 😆
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