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Old Apr 18, 2024 | 04:34 AM
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Carmakers say goodbye to EVs: this is the new engine that changes everything

from here: https://www.ecoticias.com/en/carmakers-new-engine/1022/

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It is clear that this hydrogen engine will be a historic milestone in sustainable mobility, not only in the United States but also in the rest of the world. The carmakers have decided to back away from EV development, with brands that are leaving them for good. Will we see Tesla do so as well? Perhaps Elon Musk is too proud to go back on his words.
one small issue:

BMW must face a challenge: attention to this almost-solved problem



The hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are undermined by two common problems which is the high cost of hydrogen generation and the absence of an infrastructure to refuel. The majority of hydrogen is got from natural gas by the process of steam methane reformation mechanism today.

This steps is prohibitively costly that makes hydrogen cost $5-$10 in the result. As per comparison, the costs of measuring fossil fuels vary from $3 to $4. The most important factor preventing hydrogen-powered cars from being successful against ICE vehicles is definitely the lack of affordable hydrogen production.
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Old Apr 18, 2024 | 06:21 AM
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Broken link.

EDIT: Strange, link works now.

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Old Apr 18, 2024 | 11:00 AM
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yes, sure. I will get one when it proves that hydrogen car cost less and cheaper to run vs both ICE & EV.
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Old Apr 18, 2024 | 11:24 AM
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Vaporware.
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Old Apr 19, 2024 | 09:00 AM
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lol.

we are pretty deep already in charging infrastructure in some places that hydrogen will never take off unless something catastrophic happens to EV production.
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Old Apr 19, 2024 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
lol.

we are pretty deep already in charging infrastructure in some places that hydrogen will never take off unless something catastrophic happens to EV production.
Shell has already dropped all their hydrogen stations. So even in California the number of hydrogen stations has dropped significantly
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Your all showing your myopic view of the world. It's not today or tomorrow it's down the road when Hydrogen will take over. Batteries are a losing proposition.
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Old Apr 19, 2024 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rogerh00
Your all showing your myopic view of the world. It's not today or tomorrow it's down the road when Hydrogen will take over. Batteries are a losing proposition.
​​​​​​ You have that backwards. Batteries are only growing. Hydrogen on the other hand, seems to be the losing proposition. Last I saw, the biggest hydrogen fuel provider in California pulled the plug. Reality, my friend is not always pretty
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must be a very long road...
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
must be a very long road...
Hope it's not too long a road, I only have 200 miles left on my battery 🤣
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Originally Posted by rogerh00
Your all showing your myopic view of the world. It's not today or tomorrow it's down the road when Hydrogen will take over. Batteries are a losing proposition.
Hydrogen will never overcome this.


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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Hydrogen will never overcome this.

It's a good chart and H2 is hard as seen in gas form.

Not criticizing the chart, just mentioning that the first column starts with free $$$ electric.




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Originally Posted by Margate330
It's a good chart and H2 is hard as seen in gas form.

Not criticizing the chart, just mentioning that the first column starts with free $$$ electric.
"Renewable" doesn't mean free. Just means it can be regenerated
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I'll stop and refill on hydrogen on my way to rent some betamaxes for the weekend.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Hope it's not too long a road, I only have 200 miles left on my battery 🤣
Not to worry, once the hydrogen rollout is complete, you can have a hydrogen generator to keep your EV going indefinitely.

Any day now.
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