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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 07:07 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 07:41 PM
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That is pretty incredible.

I wouldn't get a foot down my driveway without spilling the champagne. Lol
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 07:42 PM
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Magnetic suspension is not exactly something new - see a certain ad involving an LS400 from the 90s, and a certain demonstration using HMMVWs - with the latter including an option for a "magnetically-assisted suspension", which IMO is a million times better - if this thing fails/overheats/whatever, the chassis is still controlled.

Anyways, it's a pretty brute force and consequentially very uninteresting approach. See the system that's used on the mclarens/patrol y62 - the "hydraulic roll control" thing - if you want to see something way more interesting. Nevermind the various other hydropneumatic developments.

p.s. can we not share random tiktok-ish low effort videos?
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looks like a chinese version of the Bose active suspension




and the Bose car could leap through the air lol
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Old Apr 15, 2024 | 01:14 AM
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It's the Nio ET9, their flagship sedan to be released next year. Nio is often referred as the Chinese Tesla.

https://www.nio.com/et9?&noredirect=

They are using suspension system from ClearMotion: https://www.prweb.com/releases/clear...302021556.html

What is interesting about Nio is the battery swap stations in China, so you don't need to recharge, its about a 5-10min automated swap with a fully charged battery.

But yes - tiktok video does my head in. Pls no.

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It’s about time someone brought this suspension to market. Bose was first, it seems, but American automakers chose to twiddle their thumbs instead. Good on NIO for bringing this to market.
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Porsche has pretty much the same setup in the latest Panamera and Taycan. There is a whole thread on that here in Car Chat. Porsche states they dialed in some "feel" cause Porsche, but the tech is there to finally make it possible in a production car unlike the Bose setup from decades ago.

Also look closely, those bumps the NIO is going over in comparison to the Maybach is incredibly narrow. lol. Gotta love marketing.
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Old Apr 15, 2024 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
Porsche has pretty much the same setup in the latest Panamera and Taycan. There is a whole thread on that here in Car Chat. Porsche states they dialed in some "feel" cause Porsche, but the tech is there to finally make it possible in a production car unlike the Bose setup from decades ago.

Also look closely, those bumps the NIO is going over in comparison to the Maybach is incredibly narrow. lol. Gotta love marketing.
Are you saying Bose didn’t have the tech to make it into a production car? How so? What tech did they not have?
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They had the technology it was too expensive for mass production.
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Originally Posted by isfvss
They had the technology it was too expensive for mass production.
How expensive? Because I know several rolls Royce owners who have no idea what “too expensive” means.
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Originally Posted by Tdes395
It’s about time someone brought this suspension to market. Bose was first, it seems, but American automakers chose to twiddle their thumbs instead. Good on NIO for bringing this to market.
We have this tech in cars to some degree already. The hydraulic active suspensions such as Mercedes MBC and eABC use cameras to read the road ahead and hydraulic suspensions to pre-load the suspension so it behaves that way. If you have driven a Mercedes with this tech over a speed bump, its crazy, its like the bump wasnt even there. That W223 Maybach clearly lacks this feature.
This system was available from Mercedes in 2014...so this isn't cutting edge:

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Magic Body Control sounds very Asian.
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They have some very strange names for things lol
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
W223 Maybach clearly lacks this feature.
Weird.

Afaik the reason for the lack of this system on non-top-engine (and on the AWD models) was the additional hydraulic equipment required. Now that they've moved to 24v, that should've been solved. This is, imo, one of the most significant technical advantages of the s-class over pretty much any other competitor. For some reason toyo/lex only do this (well, active hydraulics, not this in particular) for top end land cruiser. It's both a performance and comfort enhancement.
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Originally Posted by Lwerewolf
Weird.

Afaik the reason for the lack of this system on non-top-engine (and on the AWD models) was the additional hydraulic equipment required. Now that they've moved to 24v, that should've been solved. This is, imo, one of the most significant technical advantages of the s-class over pretty much any other competitor. For some reason toyo/lex only do this (well, active hydraulics, not this in particular) for top end land cruiser. It's both a performance and comfort enhancement.
The W223 Maybach can be equipped with e-ABC, it's just an option. And it's running on a 48v system, not 24v.
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