Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

Did I get ripped off? OD reads different than printout?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 9, 2024 | 04:09 PM
  #1  
Linus72's Avatar
Linus72
Thread Starter
4th Gear
 
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default Did I get ripped off? OD reads different than printout?

Hello,
I'm writing this for a buddy of mine who recently bought a 2012 Lexus is250.
He bought it from Michigan and it was driven to him. I think he paid $12k or similar, I'm in Virginia.
So, he asked me to take it to O'Reilly's and do a code scan on it and it said p0750, etc.
However, at the top corner of the printout it said the car has 140K miles- but the OD in the car says 72,550??
WHat gives??
If my buddy got ripped like this it's probably a felony to change the OD isn't it?
Thanks for any advice.
I'm not sure if he got it from used car dealer or private I'll ask him.
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2024 | 04:15 PM
  #2  
Margate330's Avatar
Margate330
Lexus Champion
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 11,252
Likes: 1,598
From: FL
Default

Welcome to Club Lexus and your 1st post!

Oh man, what you're reporting doesn't sound good at all.
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2024 | 04:50 PM
  #3  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,461
Likes: 251
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Welcome to CL.

Definitely sounds like it needs some investigation....could very well be a rollback.

Modern digital odometers are much more difficult to roll back than the old ones where you just hooked up a drill to the mechanical cable, but are not impossible.

In rare instances (and I've had this happen once), odometers and/or dash-screens have to be replaced for various reasons (failure, damage, theft, etc...) and the new odometer starts over at 0 mileage. But, when that happens, Federal law in the U.S. requires a sticker to be attached to the vehicle (often on the door-jamb) documenting the odometer-change at whatever mileage, so that the vehicle's true mileage can be determined.

Reply
Old Mar 9, 2024 | 05:14 PM
  #4  
Linus72's Avatar
Linus72
Thread Starter
4th Gear
 
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for answering, will be there in a bit and will look on door jamb. He actually paid $14,000 and I know he said it was advertised as having 72k.
$14k is a bit much for a 146k car so I think there's some **** in the game.
It says it's a federal crime and interstate crime too.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2024 | 10:43 AM
  #5  
jimbosr1's Avatar
jimbosr1
Pole Position
Veteran: Air Force
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,088
Likes: 245
Default

Did your friend get a Carfax on the vehicle before he bought it?
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2024 | 11:41 AM
  #6  
Trackruner's Avatar
Trackruner
Driver
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 65
Likes: 3
From: Charlotte, NC
Default

Download the app "Carfax car care" and put his plate or VIN into it. It should show you all the mileage.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2024 | 11:44 AM
  #7  
Striker223's Avatar
Striker223
Lexus Champion
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 18,303
Likes: 1,784
From: Ohio
Default

Digital odometers are extremely easy to adjust to whatever mileage you want, or you just swap a lower mile cluster in if you are trying to scam someone.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2024 | 11:49 AM
  #8  
jimbosr1's Avatar
jimbosr1
Pole Position
Veteran: Air Force
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,088
Likes: 245
Default

With the right software changing a digital ODO takes seconds to do.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2024 | 01:40 PM
  #9  
Linus72's Avatar
Linus72
Thread Starter
4th Gear
 
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default

Ok thanks.
he said he got it from copart auction site.
I looked and there are no stickers on any door, etc.
Ok I'll check out the Carfax app.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2024 | 02:15 PM
  #10  
jimbosr1's Avatar
jimbosr1
Pole Position
Veteran: Air Force
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,088
Likes: 245
Default

Copart auction, you win the bid you own it. Rolled back or not,as is sale.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2024 | 04:35 PM
  #11  
Margate330's Avatar
Margate330
Lexus Champion
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 11,252
Likes: 1,598
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by jimbosr1
Copart auction, you win the bid you own it. Rolled back or not,as is sale.
Yeah, this whole deal is sounding worse and worse.

I'd get a Carfax as mentioned above and an auto check AND Google the vin and see if anything weird shows up.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2024 | 12:23 PM
  #12  
link13's Avatar
link13
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,587
Likes: 94
From: CA, Mid OC
Default

It sounds like a cluster swap. I don't believe there is any recourse for your friend. Sorry to say it, but buying a car at auction comes with these types of risks.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2024 | 01:30 PM
  #13  
tex2670's Avatar
tex2670
Lexus Champion
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,054
Likes: 103
From: Southeastern PA
Default

Originally Posted by jimbosr1
Copart auction, you win the bid you own it. Rolled back or not,as is sale.
OK, but it's still a crime to roll back the ODO. We don't know who rolled it back, but you can't commit a crime and then say "AS IS Sale!"
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2024 | 01:36 PM
  #14  
Striker223's Avatar
Striker223
Lexus Champion
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 18,303
Likes: 1,784
From: Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by tex2670
OK, but it's still a crime to roll back the ODO. We don't know who rolled it back, but you can't commit a crime and then say "AS IS Sale!"
True but unless you can prove Copart did it or had active knowledge of it being done good luck getting any resolution.....

Reply
Old Mar 11, 2024 | 03:38 PM
  #15  
tex2670's Avatar
tex2670
Lexus Champion
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,054
Likes: 103
From: Southeastern PA
Default

Originally Posted by Striker223
True but unless you can prove Copart did it or had active knowledge of it being done good luck getting any resolution.....
Agreed you have to prove it, but AS IS doesn't absolve anyone from crimes
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:14 PM.