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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 10:40 PM
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2-door EV this year, 4-door and inline-6 next year











After more than a year, we finally get to see the production 2024 Dodge Charger, and it looks pretty much like the concept. It's got bigger door mirrors and door handles, plus more finished, functional lighting, but yeah, the concept made it to production pretty much unchanged, from the aerodynamic take on the '60s Chargers' nose to the rear liftback. Even the interior retains the same dual-screen array, pistol-grip shifter and wraparound ambient lighting. The most notable change to the interior being that the miniature forest of plastic strands has been compressed into single molded panels. But with the way the light reflects off the texture, you get a similar, and still attractive effect.

Dodge CEO Tim Kuniskis told the press that this was part of the plan, to more or less show the production car and the EV plans early to let the fans sit with it and get used to the idea. Then, hopefully, when the car was ready, so would the customers. Maybe there's something to that, but we think just having a cool-looking vehicle speaks for itself, no matter the time between reveal and launch.

Something Dodge didn't share at the concept's reveal in 2022 was the four-door variant. And design-wise, it's simply a longer version of the coupe with an extra pair of doors. Plus, it's still got the rear hatch. The extra length (which Dodge hasn't specified, yet) will make the four-door Charger the most spacious and practical for both people and cargo, with maximum cargo space reaching 38.5 cubic feet (though that's only 1.1 cubic feet more than the coupe).

Also worth mentioning is that there's a distinct difference in the upcoming gas-powered Charger Sixpack's styling. Whereas the EVs have the "R-Wing" nose that passes air through the rectangular grille through a vent in the hood, the Sixpack has a conventional hood and grille. We're curious what the difference in aerodynamic drag will be between the two.

We may as well cover the powertrains, now, too, since we've brought up the Sixpack. For the first year, the Charger will only be available as an EV, and these will all be called Charger Daytona. Two Daytona trims will be on offer first, the R/T and the Scat Pack, each with basically the same battery and motor units. They each get a pair of identical electric motors with single-speed gearboxes, each with a maximum output of 335 horsepower and 300 pound-feet of torque. Depending on the trim, the combined output is different, though. The R/T will have a maximum output of 456 horsepower and 404 pound-feet of torque, while the Scat Pack maxes out at 590 horsepower and 627 pound-feet of torque.

Note, these numbers will be with the 15-second Power Shot enabled, which adds 40 horsepower to the usual amount. There's a 30-second cooldown time between Power Shot uses, but there's no limit to the number of uses otherwise.

For the first year of production, Dodge will be including Direct Connection Stage Kit upgrades, gratis. So the first-year R/T will have the 40-horsepower Stage 1 upgrade, bringing it up to 496 horsepower, and the Scat Pack will have the 80-horsepower Stage 2 upgrade, bringing it up to 670 horsepower. And possibly the most important part of the equation are the acceleration times. Dodge claims a 0-60 time for the R/T of 4.7 seconds and a quarter-mile time of 13.1 seconds. The Scat Pack will get to 60 in 3.3 seconds on the way to an 11.5-second quarter-mile time. Top speed is relatively low, though, at 137 mph for the R/T and 134 for the Scat Pack.

The aforementioned Direct Connection upgrades will then be available at extra cost in subsequent model years. Dodge representatives didn't go into detail about what is actually different besides calibrations, nor whether they would let you upgrade an R/T all the way up to Scat Pack performance. So we'll be curious to see the full offerings and specifications of those upgrades in the near future, as well as what the aftermarket might figure out.

Connected to those motors is a 100.5-kWh gross battery pack with 93.9 kWh usable. The R/T is expected to go 317 miles on a charge, while the Scat Pack will go 260. It's a 400-volt battery pack, but can still hit a peak of 183 kW from a DC fast charger. Dodge estimates that an 80% charge can be achieved in about 30 minutes on a 350-kW-capable DC fast charger. As for AC charging, it has a peak of 11 kW, and a Level 2 AC charger should be able to get a Charger Daytona to 80% charge between 5 and 7 hours.

You may have noticed that the two-speed gearbox and 800-volt battery teased with the concept were not listed for these cars. Those features are being saved for the SRT Banshee model that will come next year with even more performance than the Scat Pack.
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2024 Dodge Charger Daytona and Sixpack trim breakdown

2024 Dodge Charger Daytona R/T

The R/T (pictured in four-door form in orange above) is the base trim of the Charger Daytona at its launch. That means it offers the least amount of power, but it’s no slouch. In standard guise, the R/T produces 456 horsepower and 404 pound-feet of torque from its two electric motors, giving it all-wheel drive. One key asterisk to note is that Dodge’s peak horsepower figures are provided with the car in “PowerShot” mode that boosts output by 40 horsepower in 15-second intervals. Without “PowerShot” mode (how you’d drive around most of the time), the R/T produces 416 horsepower. To complicate matters a little further, the R/T (and the Scat Pack) come with Direct Connection kits as standard equipment at launch – they’ll be optional on cars after the first year. The Stage 1 kit applied to the R/T gives it a 40-horsepower boost, which means maximum output (when using PowerShot) will be 496 horsepower. In this guise, Dodge says it’s good for a 0-60 mph run of 4.7 seconds and will complete the 1/4 mile in 13.1 seconds.

Suspension-wise, the R/T is equipped with monotube passive dampers. No matter if it’s an R/T or Scat Pack, every 2024 model year Daytona comes with the Track Pack’s (explained in further detail in the Scat Pack section) big Brembo brake kit. Every version of the Charger Daytona also comes with the same 100.5 kilowatt-hour battery pack, but in the R/T it’s EPA-rated for 317 miles on a full charge. Charging speeds peak at 183 kW no matter the trim. The R/T gets Line Lock, Launch Control and Race Prep modes, but does not benefit from the Donut Mode and Drift Mode you’ll find on the Scat Pack.

You’ll be able to tell it’s the R/T on the exterior by the fender badging and wheels. The R/T gets 18-inch wheels in Tech Silver wrapped in 275-section-width tires at all four corners, while Scat Packs go bigger. An optional full-length glass roof can replace the steel, painted roof on either trim, too. The R/T gets a 10.25-inch digital instrument cluster and 12.3-inch touchscreen infotainment system inside.

2024 Dodge Charger Daytona Scat Pack

The Scat Pack is top-dog in the Charger Daytona lineup at the model’s launch. In standard format, the Scat Pack will produce 590 horsepower and 627 pound-feet of torque. Again, that’s with the PowerShot mode activated, and without it you’ll be looking at 550 horsepower in most driving. However, just like the R/T, the Scat Pack launch cars will all come with a Direct Connection kit standard. This one is the “Stage 2” kit, which gives the car an 80-horsepower boost, taking maximum output to a sky-high 670 horsepower. With this kit and PowerShot activated, the Scat Pack will hit 60 mph in just 3.3 seconds and do the 1/4 mile in 11.5 seconds.

In its standard guise, the Scat Pack gets passive monotube dampers with a sportier tune than the R/T model. However, the Scat Pack has an optional Track Pack which tacks on a whole host of performance goodies. This package gets you adaptive dampers, Brembo brakes (six-piston front/four-piston rear), staggered Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3 tires (305-section-width in front and 325s in rear) wrapping unique 20-inch wheels and a Drive Experience Recorder that records your drag strip or track day shenanigans. The aforementioned Donut Mode and Drift Mode come on all Scat Packs as standard equipment, as do all the modes mentioned in the R/T section.

Range takes a hit with the Scat Pack, going down to 260 miles on a full charge, and we suspect that figure could drop even further with the Track Pack. You’ll notice the Scat Pack is rocking its familiar bee-theme emblem, reimagined for the electric age. The interior of the Scat Pack sees a bigger cluster screen, as it gets a 16-inch digital cluster standard instead of the R/T’s 10.25-inch screen – all models make do with the 12.3-inch touchscreen infotainment, though.

2025 Dodge Charger Sixpack S.O. and Sixpack H.O.

The day isn’t all about electric cars, as Dodge announced its new Charger will also house the Hurricane 3.0-liter twin-turbo inline-six engine that initially debuted in the Jeep Grand Wagoneer and later in the Ram 1500. Unlike the Daytona that begins production in mid-2024 for the 2024 model year, the Sixpack models won’t start being built until the first quarter of 2025 for the 2025 model year.

When the gas-powered Charger does arrive, you’ll have the choice between the Standard Output with 420 horsepower or the High Output with 550 horsepower, making the latter version the most powerful Hurricane variant to date.

Dodge isn’t showing us all the flashy pictures or giving the details on other Sixpack specifics, but it does say that “Sixpack” interior badging will feature prominently to call it out as the gas-powered Charger.

Plus, four-door Charger models are on the way



Dodge also announced today that four-door versions of every model revealed today will be coming soon. We don’t have all the details, but the four-door versions of both the electric Daytona and gas-powered Sixpack models are scheduled for the first quarter of 2025.
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Frankenstein face is hard to get passed. Greenhouse seems homely on the coupe, compared to the sporty body flanks. Interior is sharp, but they had nowhere to go but up.
Not a fan of retro. Dodge could have invented the future, so I'll call it a missed opportunity.

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I think it looks good.

Could be meaner looking but that's ok.

Hey, at least they're still making them. 🚁
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Coupe looks horrible, sedan looks great, but man 207 inches is lol.
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This thing must be heavy as hell. 170hp and at least 150lbft more than an M3 comp (and presumably more linear, being an EV), and still a third of a second slower to 60.

Edit: Yep, it's 5,838 lbs. A full ton more than either the M3 or the outgoing Challenger. Not clear if that's for the base R/T or not, so it's possible the Scat Pack is even heavier.

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Originally Posted by geko29
This thing must be heavy as hell. 170hp and at least 150lbft more than an M3 comp (and presumably more linear, being an EV), and still a third of a second slower to 60.

Edit: Yep, it's 5,838 lbs. A full ton more than either the M3 or the outgoing Challenger. Not clear if that's for the base R/T or not, so it's possible the Scat Pack is even heavier.
Even the new PHEV M5 is 500 lbs less.
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did dodge invent the word Fratzonic for this car's "exhaust"? from my minimal reading about it so far, it seems like there's a literal speaker and amplifier just playing loud noise out of the back (up to 126db apparently)... seriously what is the world coming to
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I thought it was bad when automakers were playing fake exhaust notes INSIDE the car. Now you can announce your nonexistent engine to the world.
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
I thought it was bad when automakers were playing fake exhaust notes INSIDE the car. Now you can announce your nonexistent engine to the world.
Yep, they’re getting desperate.

Gee golly gosh, turns out the USA, we like our gas cars after all.

Chevy Silverado and Ram EVs will never see the light of day.
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someone must have already put an aftermarket external speaker system to play engine sounds on a tesla, so it was bound to happen that an OEM would do it...
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
did dodge invent the word Fratzonic for this car's "exhaust"? from my minimal reading about it so far, it seems like there's a literal speaker and amplifier just playing loud noise out of the back (up to 126db apparently)... seriously what is the world coming to
Appears to be stamped on the diffusor area

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Originally Posted by geko29
This thing must be heavy as hell. 170hp and at least 150lbft more than an M3 comp (and presumably more linear, being an EV), and still a third of a second slower to 60.

Edit: Yep, it's 5,838 lbs. A full ton more than either the M3 or the outgoing Challenger. Not clear if that's for the base R/T or not, so it's possible the Scat Pack is even heavier.

Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Even the new PHEV M5 is 500 lbs less.
The weight isn’t surprising. It’s about the size of a Mercedes EQS and BMW i7 and has the weight to match. It’s actually wider than both of those cars while matching their length. I doubt the Scat Pack is much heavier given they all have the same size battery pack.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey689
Appears to be stamped on the diffusor area

That's pathetic. Dead Mopar engineers are spinning. Fake sounds coming from a speaker that's where the exhaust would be? Say the previous sentence out loud.
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They both look "off" to me. Something about the way the hood dives doesn't look right.

I'll reserve judgment until I see them in person. I haven't visited any Mopar forums to see what the reception is.

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