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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Our hybrids range is lower in colder temps because the engine runs more often. The PHEV was parked all week. I mainly drove the Prius. You are correct on how I use it. I charged the PHEV 2x at home today. It’s back on the charger again set to start charging around 5am.






In our LX, I want to say between 290ish on the low end and 320ish around town. Sometimes little over 330 but I think that’s pushing it. My wife DD it and she does a lot of idling and she has a led foot. Example EV range on the PHEV is 4 miles less after her driving it just 1 day.

In my experience no vehicle is as efficient in cold weather as it is in warm weather, hybrid or NA gas. In my tundras when it’s cold outside, it won’t shift into 6th gear until the engine/transmission is warm. I don’t let them warm up before driving.
You're totally correct. Gasoline engines lose between 15 and 20 percent MPG between 30F and 20F degree, while EV's lose about 20 percent between the same temperatures:

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/gas-pow...d-weather-evs/

You don't feel it as much because a gas tank holds more energy than a battery pack. My Tesla for example holds less than 2 and half gallons equivalent. I had a 2018 Civic Si that was EPA highway rated for 40 MPG, in the winter I was lucky to get 28 MPG. Plus I would get fuel dilution in the winter, my oil would smell like gas

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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 06:33 AM
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Rivian only loses $30K per vehicle thank you very much

It costs money to spool up new factories and they're determining loss per car by taking the total losses divided by the # of cars delivered. It costs Lucid $400K per car because they haven't ramped and their cost basis is only divvied up by a small base. Rivian went from $120K loss per car to $30K loss per car in a year because they were able to ramp production
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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Our hybrids range is lower in colder temps because the engine runs more often. The PHEV was parked all week. I mainly drove the Prius. You are correct on how I use it. I charged the PHEV 2x at home today. It’s back on the charger again set to start charging around 5am.






In our LX, I want to say between 290ish on the low end and 320ish around town. Sometimes little over 330 but I think that’s pushing it. My wife DD it and she does a lot of idling and she has a led foot. Example EV range on the PHEV is 4 miles less after her driving it just 1 day.

In my experience no vehicle is as efficient in cold weather as it is in warm weather, hybrid or NA gas. In my tundras when it’s cold outside, it won’t shift into 6th gear until the engine/transmission is warm. I don’t let them warm up before driving.
I still can't believe you charge so often for such a small gain.

Despite your fears, you are so ready for EV. Embrace the future, let go of the past.
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