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Old May 14, 2024 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
I think Jaguar began to lose their way when they dropped their V12. Now, not more flagship sedan
The issue is they were so unreliable. With the loss of the V12 came improved reliability which they just had to have.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The issue is they were so unreliable. With the loss of the V12 came improved reliability which they just had to have.
hmmmm. I think we need to fact check ^^^
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Were Jags ever reliable?
Old May 14, 2024 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LH1
Were Jags ever reliable?
They have gotten better, but the V12 Jags of that era specifically just had a terrible reputation for reliability, once they were bought by Ford reliability improved
Old May 14, 2024 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LH1
Were Jags ever reliable?
I've heard horror stories like posted above but I don't have any personal knowledge so I don't know.

Maybe there were some good models and years, maybe. Lol

But, but, but c'mon, it's a Jaguar so it gets points for coolness.
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So common here like I always say.

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is the one on the left yours? if so 2 total is not that common.
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Old May 14, 2024 | 10:41 AM
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Yup, I watched that. Luckily the 222s are way more reliable than the 221s. Highlights how important it is to stay up on the maintenance and repairs for these cars
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Originally Posted by LH1
Were Jags ever reliable?

After Ford bought them out, reliability and assembly-quality improved somewhat, but they have never been in the same reliability-class as, say, the better Japanese or Korean products.
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I can’t stand people who pull into a gas station and don’t pull through to the first pump.

That is all
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I can’t stand people who pull into a gas station and don’t pull through to the first pump.

That is all
The worst.

I see they're really bad about pump etiquette at Costco as well, ignoring the indicators showing there's an empty pump, or lacking common sense and pulling up and getting out at Pump 2 when it's very obvious the guy at the first pump is going to leave in 5 seconds. I always fold my mirrors in while i'm gassing up at Costco, i've seen some real close calls from some of the rich wine moms here driving SUV's much larger than they're clearly comfortable with.

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Had to take a few days off from driving after having PRK surgery last thursday. Doctor told me I'm good to drive again now.

The HUD was fun while it lasted, but now I have to wear polarized sunglasses so I don't see it anymore.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
They have gotten better, but the V12 Jags of that era specifically just had a terrible reputation for reliability, once they were bought by Ford reliability improved
that's a scary thought that you need to be bought out by ford to become reliable... a V12 jag has won le mans (XJR-9) so we know it can be good for at least 24 hours haha

it was definitely time for that engine to die though just because of how abysmal its output figures are! a 6.0 liter litre V12 that makes only 320 hp and 330 ft-lbs as recently as the mid 1990s is just a gas guzzling boat anchor
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
The worst.

I see they're really bad about pump etiquette at Costco as well, ignoring the indicators showing there's an empty pump, or lacking common sense and pulling up and getting out at Pump 2 when it's very obvious the guy at the first pump is going to leave in 5 seconds. I always fold my mirrors in while i'm gassing up at Costco, i've seen some real close calls from some of the rich wine moms here driving SUV's much larger than they're clearly comfortable with.
This particular one, people were sitting at the two closest pumps with nobody at the pump ahead of them, and she and I both had to wait. Even though she was made to wait when she didnt have to, she still did the same thing!



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