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Old Apr 15, 2024 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

It handles like an AWD car. It rotates very well!! Especially if you ditch the factory tires. Honda really dialed it in with this car. It’s my dream car!!

You can’t mimic on the street what it’s capable of on a road course track. I keep the factory wheels on whenever I’m not on track to give it that “stock” look. I swap on a different of wheels/tires for the track.

Here a pic of the GTR as requested.


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So this is interesting...surprised me...

The 7 Series came within 800 units of the S Class last year, and so far this year it is outselling the S Class...
Old Apr 15, 2024 | 08:04 AM
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Yeah they're on a roll in general. 2023 was the first time ever that BMW outsold Mercedes overall.
Old Apr 15, 2024 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
So this is interesting...surprised me...

The 7 Series came within 800 units of the S Class last year, and so far this year it is outselling the S Class...
The EQS doesn’t help. Makes the brand look a little crappy IMO so buyers stay away. And then there are those that of course went for the EQS
Old Apr 15, 2024 | 10:29 AM
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So this is interesting...surprised me...
The 7 Series came within 800 units of the S Class last year, and so far this year it is outselling the S Class...
Definitely not around here for sure. I rarely see 7 around here. Or may be the 7 doesn't draw as much attention and/or it's red car syndrome.
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex


Out of all of our vehicles including 4 cylinder “buzzy” hybrids, PHEVs and V8s, my “buzzy” 4 cylinder FBO big turbo TRACK car is the most quiet at 75mph. All of them tested on the same road. I actually had my wife and kids in the car with me this time. I told them I need them to be quiet for a few seconds.

Also got some datalogs for my tuner for an upcoming revision tune while out with the family making a Whole Foods and Target run.
Don't you have an LX? It's a tomb inside, stuns me they made a truck so quiet. You can whisper a conversation to someone in the back seat at 85MPH.
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Here a pic of the GTR as requested.

Beautiful man. How’s the upkeep on it?

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Don't you have an LX? It's a tomb inside, stuns me they made a truck so quiet. You can whisper a conversation to someone in the back seat at 85MPH.
Yes have a LX. It’s quiet as well. One thing I wish it had is electronic steering.
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Beautiful man. How’s the upkeep on it?



Yes have a LX. It’s quiet as well. One thing I wish it had is electronic steering.
your civic doesn’t have electric steering? The LX570 is fluid based steering.
Old Apr 15, 2024 | 12:21 PM
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your civic doesn’t have electric steering? The LX570 is fluid based steering.
I was referring to the LX not having electric steering. The steering feels heavy truck like.
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Idk how I stumbled across this but found it interesting.

I am thinking about SC’ing my Tundra. Not really looking forward to running premium only🥴 but I hardly drive it so maybe it won’t be too bad.

Was unsure whether to post this here or EV forum
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You should be running mid grade at least on any UR engine, they pull a hell of a lot of timing otherwise.
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Yes have a LX. It’s quiet as well. One thing I wish it had is electronic steering.
Are you sure? Why do you want electric? Old hydraulic feels way better to me. The Denali steers nice and fine but it doesn't have the nice road feel you get with hydraulic units, like in our LX.

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You should be running mid grade at least on any UR engine, they pull a hell of a lot of timing otherwise.
The 5.7 won't. All it needs is 87. All I've put in it for three years I've owned it is 87. This mitigates the terrible gas mileage and you're not really paying all that much for gas versus V8 competitors that actually do require premium. The Denali gets about 12MPG lol costs a significant amount more to fuel. It'll knock if you don't put at least 89 in it (surprisingly). It gets premium.

The 4.6 however I would use mid grade on bc it does have a higher compression than the one in the Tundra.

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Originally Posted by AJT123
Are you sure? Why do you want electric? Old hydraulic feels way better to me. The Denali steers nice and fine but it doesn't have the nice road feel you get with hydraulic units, like in our LX.



The 5.7 won't. All it needs is 87. All I've put in it for three years I've owned it is 87. This mitigates the terrible gas mileage and you're not really paying all that much for gas versus V8 competitors that actually do require premium. The Denali gets about 12MPG lol costs a significant amount more to fuel. It'll knock if you don't put at least 89 in it (surprisingly). It gets premium.

The 4.6 however I would use mid grade on bc it does have a higher compression than the one in the Tundra.
The 5.7 pulls about 6-10* timing easily if not more, look up KCLV on this or the tundra forums for more info. All of them run best on 91-93 octane if you want max performance and not having the engine knock and dial back repeatedly in an endless loop.

Anytime the knock sensors intervene it's only after knock has occurred no matter how small or minor, the long term correction valve shows you how much power it's pulling as a "new normal" to try and save the engine from small amount of consistent knock.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
The 5.7 pulls about 6-10* timing easily if not more, look up KCLV on this or the tundra forums for more info. All of them run best on 91-93 octane if you want max performance and not having the engine knock and dial back repeatedly in an endless loop.

Anytime the knock sensors intervene it's only after knock has occurred no matter how small or minor, the long term correction valve shows you how much power it's pulling as a "new normal" to try and save the engine from small amount of consistent knock.
You get 2 extra horsepower if you use premium. The 5.7 requiring premium is just Lexus marketing bullshyt. I've done everything but go to the moon and the back to try to hear a knock, never.

Why does Toyota ask for 87 for the 5.7 if it's bad or not ideal for the engine? That's all the proof I need. I don't have to tell you this but it's the exact same engine, in every single way, as the 5.7 that went into the Land Cruiser that it was built alongside in Japan. 100% identical except the badge on the engine over.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
You get 2 extra horsepower if you use premium. The 5.7 requiring premium is just Lexus marketing bullshyt. I've done everything but go to the moon and the back to try to hear a knock, never.

Why does Toyota ask for 87 for the 5.7 if it's bad or not ideal for the engine? That's all the proof I need. I don't have to tell you this but it's the exact same engine, in every single way, as the 5.7 that went into the Land Cruiser that it was built alongside in Japan. 100% identical except the badge on the engine over.
It's not about the 2hp or premium requirement, again look up what I said. They don't say use 89/91 because people would and do have a stroke over putting that in "normal" cars.

If 87 was actually ideal it wouldn't be pulling timing and leaning on the knock sensors



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