FSDv12 = Game Over
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This is extremely interesting. But Elon has been talking about this AI self driving system for a while, and how all his vehicles will instantly increase in worth simply after he flips the switch and turns it on. So interesting to me that they spent probably billions on the current FSD Beta writing code but it won't be used in the end.
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Alternative is to patch, work-around, cobble, and otherwise Frankenstein to try and make the whole mess work.
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Sometimes refactoring can get us by but eventually like you said, time to chuck it and start over.
I'm doing that right now when migrating to faster ARM chips. The newer chips allow me to chunck in serial stream data using DMA techniques in the Mhz's.
Sometimes the code is good but have to start over for hardware reasons too.
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BTW established OEMs have severe code bloat.
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We get in a zone and then the brain reboots. Lol
The other day I was looking at my Devicenet program I wrote a couple years ago and didn't remember one line of it.
Good thing I heavily use descriptive variable names because I rarely comment my code.
On the FSD, I predict they will make a case for necessary sensors buried in the road and connected to 5g to advance the FSD in a pseudo closed loop system.
Software will only go so far, but who knows!
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I could never survive as a programmer...I have a mild form of ADD. My mind would be wondering off while looking at oceans of code. Dear God, just thinking about that is making my head spin
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So back to FSD if you want to nerd out for an hour
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As a programmer I can tell you almost everything I write ends up being tossed. I don't know of another way, you fail and fail and fail again until you get it right. Sometimes you chuck the entire thing and start over.
Alternative is to patch, work-around, cobble, and otherwise Frankenstein to try and make the whole mess work.
Alternative is to patch, work-around, cobble, and otherwise Frankenstein to try and make the whole mess work.
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20/20 hindsight is not real if it was they would have never attempted FSD using heuristics. I can think of numerous analogies to explain how version 12 happened the simplest is you have to walk the wrong path to know it's wrong. If you don't walk it at all you'll never learn.
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One thing is for sure. Dan O’Dowd is TICKED OFF about Teslas success and I’m loving every minute of it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. For those who don’t know he owns a company that supplies LiDAR which Tesla for good reason refuses to use.
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