he compares his Y with a kia niro hybrid to see which does close to its stated range on the same trip.

spoiler: y doesn't achieve stated range.

and on one trip he got only 169 mi. on a FULL CHARGE.

and i still don't get tesla not putting in a sun shade, this dude's in arizona but fortunately has a third party shade that keeps the car tolerable in scorching arizona.

 

he says cross winds were a factor.
and his recharge is 55 minutes.

 

In my last 1000 mile trip, I averaged 80 mph, 3 passengers with the cargo area full of suitcases. Road conditions were varied from mountain passes to straightaways. Ambient temp was above 90 F and I had the AC blasted and I averaged 255 miles. I also didn't ignore the trip planner like he did

 

his car also has 60k mi. on it and he's said how that has diminished his range more than 10%.

as for the trip planning, not sure how that made his range worse.

 

I'm talking about his "close call" where he hit 0 percent. He admitted to not following the trip planner. Also, 60k is a lot of driving for a 2020. He drives way more than the average driver. My wife drives a lot, and she only hit 36k on our 2020 Ioniq in 3 years. The average person, meaning 99 percent of drivers, not someone who talks about his car for a living would be doing his type of miles, and would have the same degradation. He must do a lot of supercharging, which increases degradation.

Don't get me wrong, he's one of my favorite Tesla YouTubers and his information is valuable, but he's not your average owner or driver. He's @ST430 on steroids

 

My boss has a 2017 Model X, 120K or so on it. Last he told me, his battery degradation was 80 percent. That's not bad over 6 years and that many miles. The useful life for him is when it degrades to 70 percent, then he'll sell it. There are lots of people around here and in SoCal who buy these up and change out the battery packs. A 90D battery pack runs around $13K

 

yeah well there's lots of wealthy techy people where you are.

 

LoL that's really such a big misperception. Yes there are belts of wealth around Silicone valley but cities like San Jose where I live there's a lot of blue collar. Half my neighbors are retired blue collar. My next door neighbor is a flooring contractor, he and his brothers family rent the house together to be able to afford the rent. One house a couple of blocks down rents his driveway out to someone who lives in an RV, so it's not all gold paved streets and roses

 

tech employs tens of thousands (highly paid) there. of course there's millions of people there so there's all levels of income/wealth. but plenty who can afford a replacement battery.

 

Although that's true, California actually doesn't have the wealthiest residents and is number 5 when ranking against other states:

1. Washington DC (where people go to serve, but end up serving themselves)
2. New York
3. Massachusetts
4. Washington
5. California

Although California ranks #1 in GDP at $3.5 Trillion, probably because of the size of our economy, being the main port of entry for goods from Asia, as well as being home to the entertainment industry, finance, and of course, the tech industry.

Anyway, back to the range video. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion by watching this video (or any Youtube video for that matter) that the Model Y's range is off by that much. Yes, there are certain conditions that can destroy range, like the heavy headwinds mentioned in his video, constantly flooring the throttle, driving 100 mph etc. Again, this guy just does not represent the typical Tesla owner

 

Proper test would be to run several cars on the same route with as close to the same driving style as possible. But that is not the intent of this thread.

 

wasn't considering the entire massive state.

glad to hear. going on a trip soon and may rent a tesla so will get some real world info.

 

That is totally incorrect, but this is not the place to discuss that.

 

agreed, removed, and you're right, i meant homelessness, not poverty.

 

We certainly have a lot of that. I would definitely love to hear your review when you do rent one. Hopefully you'll be able to rent a long range and not the base, which has only about 260 miles EPA range.

But honestly with the trip planer, I don't even look at range. It will have you charge enough to get to your destination quicker. Last trip, in 380 miles, two stops, less than 15 minutes each