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Old May 13, 2024 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i wasn't thinking china would impose a tariff on imported ev's... there's no point since. i was thinking they'd specifically go after tesla, in china, as retaliation to u.s. tariff move. doesn't have to be symmetrical.
China has already had way bigger protectionary measures for decades, so I would guess no.

Another reason for no, is that Tesla is largest exporter of Chinese vehicles right now.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so the payment is not $399 i take it... it's probably $599 or something and they're factoring in the savings over time to get to the $399? obviously i haven't bothered to go read the fine misleading print.
it is a loan and not a lease, so cant have $99/mo deals.
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New autoshift feature for parallel parking and 3 point turns, where it shifts automatically as you stop your car and move the wheel, works flawlessly. Got it on my MS LR with 2024.14.3 and it is really good.

My 2023 MS was built in late February 2023, first model with new vision. Auto shift came in an update maybe in July or August, together with some other vision related enabled features and it worked 60-70% of time really well. Updates in November/December made it work well in 99% of cases, however feature was limited to getting out of the parking spot and it would work only once. So for anything that require more than a single gear change, you would have to do that manually.

Now with latest version 2024.14.3 it can execute multiple gear changes during slow speed maneuvers, and it is really easy to use and intuitive. You jut hit the brake and move the wheel and it switches to opposite gear. Used it for 3 days and maybe 10 times so far, flawless.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
New autoshift feature for parallel parking and 3 point turns, where it shifts automatically as you stop your car and move the wheel, works flawlessly. Got it on my MS LR with 2024.14.3 and it is really good.

My 2023 MS was built in late February 2023, first model with new vision. Auto shift came in an update maybe in July or August, together with some other vision related enabled features and it worked 60-70% of time really well. Updates in November/December made it work well in 99% of cases, however feature was limited to getting out of the parking spot and it would work only once. So for anything that require more than a single gear change, you would have to do that manually.

Now with latest version 2024.14.3 it can execute multiple gear changes during slow speed maneuvers, and it is really easy to use and intuitive. You jut hit the brake and move the wheel and it switches to opposite gear. Used it for 3 days and maybe 10 times so far, flawless.
Very interesting to say the least!👍
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Just noticed this interesting post on FB. Not sure how to link to it directly





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365k miles in <8 years, wow!
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person got super lucky to have it fail right before warranty ended. wonder what the cost would have been had it not been under warranty?
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person got super lucky to have it fail right before warranty ended. wonder what the cost would have been had it not been under warranty?
From Tesla I think it's $20k CAD. Third party is at least a third less.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
person got super lucky to have it fail right before warranty ended. wonder what the cost would have been had it not been under warranty?
​​​​​​ Between $15 to $20k if replaced by a Tesla service center. Saying this guy was lucky is understating his luck
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
​​​​​​ Between $15 to $20k if replaced by a Tesla service center. Saying this guy was lucky is understating his luck
Glad you've assured me that is absolutely, without a doubt, coming way down.
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You can't define anything by the edge cases. Very few EVs are going the best part of 400,000 miles in 8 years, and very few ICE cars are going the best part of 400,000 miles in 8 years. For most customers most of the time battery replacement simply isn't a concern. But of course our resident "I don't like EVs but I'm buying a Plaid" fabulist knows best.
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Originally Posted by swajames
You can't define anything by the edge cases. Very few EVs are going the best part of 400,000 miles in 8 years, and very few ICE cars are going the best part of 400,000 miles in 8 years. For most customers most of the time battery replacement simply isn't a concern. But of course our resident "I don't like EVs but I'm buying a Plaid" fabulist knows best.
Every EV will be a battery issue for some customer eventually unless it is totaled or junked. And most ICE cars aren't junked within the expected lifetime of an EV battery. In fact, the average age of a car on the road today is older than the expected lifetime of an EV battery. Stating that in the context of used car values doesn't mean you don't like EVs. It's just reality instead of cheerleading.

In summary, not a fabulist. It's not about "knowing best", it's about reality. And you can change "buying" to "bought."
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Glad you've assured me that is absolutely, without a doubt, coming way down.
LOL that's if you go through Tesla service. As I mentioned, my friend had his battery repaired for his Model S through a third party in 2022 for $7500 and his battery is still going strong. BTW, the price I mentioned was a few years ago, it may have changed since then
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Glad you've assured me that is absolutely, without a doubt, coming way down.
And a low mileage used M157 engine (like you would find in a 2016 E63, a contemporary of this particular P90D) is about $20k installed. Or if you wanted new like this battery, the short block alone is almost $20k. A complete new motor in a crate is $60k. And the likelihood that you'd get to 400k miles without needing one is pretty low.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
LOL that's if you go through Tesla service. As I mentioned, my friend had his battery repaired for his Model S through a third party in 2022 for $7500 and his battery is still going strong. BTW, the price I mentioned was a few years ago, it may have changed since then
How many cells were replaced?



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