Grid overload! friendly thoughts and ideas...
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People are installing solar panels in their homes, they've had enough of the games. Lol
My opinion! Just ideas so plz don't laugh. Lol
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So true. I originally installed solar panels to cut costs on my AC bills, which were insane! I had no idea EV'S were even in my future at that time
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The issue is a hot button one for some who oppose using fossil fuels to generate electricity. It’s not realistic to demand that this not be the case. Progress before perfection is a perspective I suggest.
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I haven’t seen anyone make that argument and it’s certainly not what I have been saying. My concern is simply one of increasing demand and either slow change or no change on the power supply side.
The issue is a hot button one for some who oppose using fossil fuels to generate electricity. It’s not realistic to demand that this not be the case. Progress before perfection is a perspective I suggest.
The issue is a hot button one for some who oppose using fossil fuels to generate electricity. It’s not realistic to demand that this not be the case. Progress before perfection is a perspective I suggest.
BTW I have a friend that works for Chevron, and he told me that they are working on cleaner burning fuels made of soybeans and even animal fats. This would reduce the amount of crude needed. You probably know more about this than I do
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I was just trying to make a point, yes nobody said this. And I wasn't directing the to you my friend. And I totally get your concerns. If EV adoption is too move forward (even if it's only in California and some other states), the grid will definitely be strained. Also just to let you know, I'm not against fossil fuels, even as a part of powering the grid.
BTW I have a friend that works for Chevron, and he told me that they are working on cleaner burning fuels made of soybeans and even animal fats. This would reduce the amount of crude needed. You probably know more about this than I do
BTW I have a friend that works for Chevron, and he told me that they are working on cleaner burning fuels made of soybeans and even animal fats. This would reduce the amount of crude needed. You probably know more about this than I do
My role is specifically teaching power management at charge sites, so not fuel side. Their strategy is up to them. I just tell them how to do it.
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The thing is, we are not going to get away from fossil fuels anytime soon. America was built on them. You would have to make a radical disruptive change to move away from them. Even if you can make them slightly cleaner burning, that's a step in the right direction, IMHO of course. Also, by using less crude, you lower it's footprint and have to refine less of it
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America was built on them. You would have to make a radical disruptive change to move away from them.
Even if you can make them slightly cleaner burning, that's a step in the right direction, IMHO of course. Also, by using less crude, you lower it's footprint and have to refine less of it
keep in mind we have never been this clean pollution wise mankinds history, but its still not enough I suppose. Car emissions have dropped something like 96% since the 1950-1960s. How far do we want to go and at what cost?
ethanol fuel is a disasterous policy, lets make it worse
ethanol fuel is a disasterous policy, lets make it worse
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Agreed. But suppose we had an infinite supply of crude, should we keep burning it? Heck no combustion byproducts are literally deadly. It may seem simplistic but the farther you live from major roadways the better your health.
Oil built the modern world and lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty in the process. Modern medicine would be impossible without oil.
We don't need oil as energy for transport, not in the long term. Millions of different products made via oil we don't have a replacement for that yet, maybe never.
Oil built the modern world and lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty in the process. Modern medicine would be impossible without oil.
We don't need oil as energy for transport, not in the long term. Millions of different products made via oil we don't have a replacement for that yet, maybe never.
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keep in mind we have never been this clean pollution wise mankinds history, but its still not enough I suppose. Car emissions have dropped something like 96% since the 1950-1960s. How far do we want to go and at what cost?
ethanol fuel is a disasterous policy, lets make it worse
ethanol fuel is a disasterous policy, lets make it worse
Lungs typically don’t burn now and it’s very noticeably cleaner in terms of air quality. Sure we can improve on it. The progress is also very significant.
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keep in mind we have never been this clean pollution wise mankinds history, but its still not enough I suppose. Car emissions have dropped something like 96% since the 1950-1960s. How far do we want to go and at what cost?
ethanol fuel is a disasterous policy, lets make it worse
ethanol fuel is a disasterous policy, lets make it worse
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This is high risk of being a stupid comment from me, but I’m going for it anyway. One of my favorite TV shows as a kid was CHiPs and it’s available on YouTube TV now. One striking thing is how awful the air quality was. I grew up in SoCal playing soccer for many years and I remember the burning feeling in lungs after practice (practice was worse because I had to train as backup tender and starting fullback).
Lungs typically don’t burn now and it’s very noticeably cleaner in terms of air quality. Sure we can improve on it. The progress is also very significant.
Lungs typically don’t burn now and it’s very noticeably cleaner in terms of air quality. Sure we can improve on it. The progress is also very significant.
. I could sit in my garage for an hour with either my Polestar or Model Y with zero worry, unless my battery decides to explode 
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