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The new factories that will eventually supply Ford’s expansion into electric vehicles are already under construction in Kentucky and Tennessee through a joint venture called BlueOval SK, owned by the Michigan automaker and South Korean battery giant SK On Co. Ford plans to make as many as 2 million EVs by 2026, a huge increase from the roughly 132,000 it produced last year.
The three-factory buildout by BlueOval plus an adjacent Ford EV assembly unit have an estimated price tag of $11.4 billion. BlueOval was previously awarded subsidies by both state governments. That means taxpayers would be providing low-interest financing for almost all of the cost.
That is one expensive factory even by automotive standards.
Bit of a misleading charging summary with a selective metric... My Lightning has the probably the largest battery of all the vehicles on that list and it fast charges from 15% to 80% in 40 minutes. That's approx 85 kWh taken on board which is more than the entire capacity of many of the vehicles on that list. The Lightning has a good charge curve, with a 150/350 charger it will maintain well over 100 KW right up to 80% and if the chargers are working as they should it will accept a higher charge than it's supposed to for the first few mins. So some EV's are great for 20 mins, some are built to get you a good charge curve over a longer period because the battery is bigger etc. I've certainly no complaints about 15% to 80% on a 131 kWH battery in 40 mins. It slows down after 80%, but I don't normally fast charge and if I did I'd rarely go beyond 80% anyway.
Bit of a misleading charging summary with a selective metric... My Lightning has the probably the largest battery of all the vehicles on that list and it fast charges from 15% to 80% in 40 minutes. That's approx 85 kWh taken on board which is more than the entire capacity of many of the vehicles on that list. The Lightning has a good charge curve, with a 150/350 charger it will maintain well over 100 KW right up to 80% and if the chargers are working as they should it will accept a higher charge than it's supposed to for the first few mins. So some EV's are great for 20 mins, some are built to get you a good charge curve over a longer period because the battery is bigger etc. I've certainly no complaints about 15% to 80% on a 131 kWH battery in 40 mins. It slows down after 80%, but I don't normally fast charge and if I did I'd rarely go beyond 80% anyway.
Heard real world range is significantly lower than what Ford stated. What is it like for you?
Pretty close to the advertised range. For my Lightning, that’s 300 miles. Mine has averaged about 2.2 miles per kWH since delivery which would translate to 288 miles from 100% to zero on a 131 kWh battery. That’s not driving gently either. With a minor modification to driving, I’d beat the advertised range. The other thing is a lot of the range anxiety you hear about comes from people focusing on indicated range. That can and does vary dramatically as the truck responds to conditions. You have to focus on the state of charge and your consumption/efficiency, not the guessometer. Ford has just released an update to the range calculation algorithm, that OTA update is downloaded and ready to install on mine as we speak.
Toyota was arguably the carmaker that truly brought the idea of lean car manufacturing to the automotive industry. But with the electric vehicle revolution leaving Toyota behind, the automaker now has to adapt to catch up to industry leaders like Tesla, which has come up with a legitimate formula to produce electric vehicles efficiently and profitably. Tesla is an automaker that adopts out-of-the-box solutions, both in its factories and in the designs of its vehicles. Thanks to its unorthodox strategies, Tesla has effectively beaten Toyota at its own game. This is about to change, according to Yoshio Nakamura, Toyota’s deputy chief of global production.
In an interview with Automotive News, Nakamura admitted that Tesla’s technology is admirable. And it is this very edge that motivates Toyota to work even harder. He also stated that if Toyota would be learning from Tesla, the innovations that would be adopted by the veteran automaker would not be a complete copy.
“Of course, we admit Tesla has wonderful technology. But that just motivates us to work harder to catch up. If we are to learn from them, it won’t be a copy. We will improve upon them through kaizen,” Nakamura said.
This is what Toyota has always been best at. But a big question is if Toyota is going to attempt to improve on the technology side and also the manufacturing side.
I don't regret my Lighting at all, it's a fantastic truck, but I really like the Rivian R1T. It's quite a bit smaller than mine, but every time I see one I really like it.
your trashing of anything that isn't tesla is predictable. in the video, the owner asked himself if he had regrets or would he buy one again and he said absolutely yes.
he's also just about tortured his r1t, and to me it seems like it's held up incredible well.
and finally, rivian is much more focused on the suv now than the truck. the suv not having a truck bed won't have one of the couple of 'fatal flaws' as you describe it.
It's up to the moderators, but maybe (?) we should consider a different thread-title. This makes it sound like GE (General Electric) makes vehicles, which, of course, it doesn't.
GE does, however, make a good line of appliances....washers, dryers, electric ranges, refrigerators, etc.... I have bought and used them for many years, and have generally been pleased with them.
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This makes it sound like GE (General Electric) makes vehicles, which, of course, it doesn't.