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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Ok got ya. I didn’t look. Maybe later
Maybe you should look before commenting blindly.
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 02:17 PM
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That awful gold exterior trim is at least optional. Bigger issue for me is the performance relative to BMW's asking price. BMW is asking a lot for performance that's pretty mediocre for the segment. Tech will be excellent, and the interior is solid.
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 02:47 PM
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I'm not sure how much it would change things but Car and Driver says this about the alternative to this gold package thing.

"Despite its flashy photos and range of BMW Individual paint options, the XM can look attractively subdued if you want."

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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 03:47 PM
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I mean....$200,000 for this...really? Why?!?
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
I'm not sure how much it would change things but Car and Driver says this about the alternative to this gold package thing.

"Despite its flashy photos and range of BMW Individual paint options, the XM can look attractively subdued if you want."
isn't car and driver more like 'bmw driver'?
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Awful…what is BMW doing ?!
they must see a market.

certainly someone who wants to make a statement. ("look at me, i like ugly blingy things").

Originally Posted by Striker223
Serving their primary market it looks like....
which is, china?

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I mean....$200,000 for this...really? Why?!?
seriously.
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 04:29 PM
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Its like the 7 series...it sounds like a great car but I could just never buy one because it is so hideous...on top of being hideus this XM doesn't sound like its that compelling a car...
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
isn't car and driver more like 'bmw driver'?
They also liked the new Accord might have to make that Honda and BMW driver.
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 02:23 AM
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To be fair to C&D, when I read their review, I didn't take away from it a very positive viewpoint by them. Some of their more negative comments below:

In trying to appease people with a multitude of tastes, BMW M's plug-in-hybrid SUV flagship loses focus.
We've been anxious to sample a production version ever since we drove a development prototype last year. Now we have, and we're left wondering if there are a few too many ingredients in its mix.
Those hoping for a deep, V-8 rumble may be disappointed, though, as its active exhaust emits a raspy growl more befitting a V-6 (additional V-8 sound effects overlaid with an EV-like whir are piped through the stereo speakers).
Though far from harsh, the XM's ride is busy over small, high-frequency bumps, even in Comfort mode on the smooth Arizona pavement of our drive route. Sprawled out on the cushy rear bench (individual captain's chairs are not available) with its throw pillows and expansive 40.3 inches of legroom, we could feel a jitteriness filtering up through the chassis, spoiling the ambiance. Similarly, the flat rear seat's lack of lateral support means you'll need to brace yourself if your driver decides to have fun behind the wheel.
But as the pinnacle of the M brand, the XM is less a delicacy and more a mash of features that leaves a confusing aftertaste.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-bmw-xm-drive/
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with 23" rims, no wonder the ride isn't great.
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
could it be due to shortage? At some point they reserved this for 45e only.
That would be a terrible excuse for their top-of-the line M Model... as undeserving of that title as this is.
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
To be fair to C&D, when I read their review, I didn't take away from it a very positive viewpoint by them. Some of their more negative comments below:



https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-bmw-xm-drive/
Thank you. C&D isn’t perfect but I’ve noticed on this forum people trot out tired tropes about their judgment without ever reading the articles.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
with 23" rims, no wonder the ride isn't great.
Range Rovers have 23s and they ride great
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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Range Rovers have 23s and they ride great
ok. slightly different target customer.

i guess bmw just made it edgy for performance reasons.
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 12:55 PM
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But BMW typically is able to make great riding vehicles that also handle great, the issues with the suspension in this surprise me. Maybe because its not an air suspension
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