View Poll Results: Do you "Extinguish You Engine" When Fueling Your Car?
Yes - I turn the engine off
90
91.84%
No - I keep it running
8
8.16%
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Do you shut off your RX when you gas it?
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What I watched was an actual demonstration by a Safety Officer from a major oil company. He held the lit cigarette over a container full of gasoline fumes that were proven to be within the explosive range with an LEL gas detector. Then he drew on the cigarette to get it as hot as possible. Nothing happened. I'm an engineer and I'm all for experiments, and perhaps it's possible, but not from what I saw.
Care to do this demo for us, that way you can tell us 1st hand if it works? Just pour a 1/2 gal or so on the floor, wait a few minutes & go for it. Remember vapors stay low so u will have to get low or why not drop the cancer stick on the floor?
Please post your results.
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What???
What are u talking about? What does your comments have to do with leaving the vehicle running while refueling?
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What I watched was an actual demonstration by a Safety Officer from a major oil company. He held the lit cigarette over a container full of gasoline fumes that were proven to be within the explosive range with an LEL gas detector. Then he drew on the cigarette to get it as hot as possible. Nothing happened. I'm an engineer and I'm all for experiments, and perhaps it's possible, but not from what I saw.
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That must have been quite a show, and thats all it is, its a show. Kind of a illusionist, it can be done if it is done under the right conditions, but for the rest of us who are not profession illusionist:
The ignition Temperature of a standard unleaded gasoline can be anywhere from 260 to 460 degrees C.
Temperature during drawing on a cigarette is around 700 deg C. More than enough to light the gasoline.
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae1.cfm
The ignition Temperature of a standard unleaded gasoline can be anywhere from 260 to 460 degrees C.
Temperature during drawing on a cigarette is around 700 deg C. More than enough to light the gasoline.
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae1.cfm
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That must have been quite a show, and thats all it is, its a show. Kind of a illusionist, it can be done if it is done under the right conditions, but for the rest of us who are not profession illusionist:
The ignition Temperature of a standard unleaded gasoline can be anywhere from 260 to 460 degrees C.
Temperature during drawing on a cigarette is around 700 deg C. More than enough to light the gasoline.
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae1.cfm
The ignition Temperature of a standard unleaded gasoline can be anywhere from 260 to 460 degrees C.
Temperature during drawing on a cigarette is around 700 deg C. More than enough to light the gasoline.
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae1.cfm
Or, check out Mythbusters: http://mythbustersresults.com/special7
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just to consider a little. I know one girl, that likes filling up gas with engine on. The problem she faced up with, was not the "fire" but car alarm. Once, it somehow locked up when she was outside!
I know it is not the car problem, but alarm system that was instaled, but have in mind, that those systems sometimes fails, and does such things in most unwanted situation..
I know it is not the car problem, but alarm system that was instaled, but have in mind, that those systems sometimes fails, and does such things in most unwanted situation..
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Check out the following website, ~3/4 of the way down the webpage. It may be feasible, but not under normal conditions. Again, I trust the actual testing. http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html
Or, check out Mythbusters: http://mythbustersresults.com/special7
Or, check out Mythbusters: http://mythbustersresults.com/special7
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Pumping gas with the engine on is illegal where I live. Fire regulations. Big fines.
The cited articles involve lighting liquid gasoline with a cigarette.
I wouldn't take an LEL meter at face value. Most won't measure the range you want, it might make a difference if the detector was an ambient-sampling or a direct-draw / sampling pump type, differing sensitivities to different fuels, blah blah blah. Too many variables. I've designed five myself in the last 15 years, I should know.
The cited articles involve lighting liquid gasoline with a cigarette.
I wouldn't take an LEL meter at face value. Most won't measure the range you want, it might make a difference if the detector was an ambient-sampling or a direct-draw / sampling pump type, differing sensitivities to different fuels, blah blah blah. Too many variables. I've designed five myself in the last 15 years, I should know.
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