Questions about oil and oil filters
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Questions about oil and oil filters
I've been searching the forums about oil and filters and I'm getting a bit overwhelmed all the information being scatter shot all over the place. Hopefully, the questions I'm asking will have answers that everyone can refer to
Regarding oil
1. What brand of dino oil? I just picked up a case Chevron Supreme Dino oil. Anyone has any experience with Chevron oil?
2. What brand of synthetic? I'm considering switching to synthetic but I don't know much about the various brand out there. What does everyone use? Mobil 1? Royal Purple?
3. Coupons? Deals?
Regarding filters
1. What brand of oil filter should I look at purchasing? Should I buy from the dealership?
2. Who makes the oil filters for Lexus? I read that Denso makes two different kind, one for Lexus/Toyota, and one of a higher quality for their own brand.
3. When changing oil, do you need the oil filter wrench? My previous car was an Acura and I didn't need it, but I haven't done anything with Toyota/Lexus so I don't know.
Thanks
Regarding oil
1. What brand of dino oil? I just picked up a case Chevron Supreme Dino oil. Anyone has any experience with Chevron oil?
2. What brand of synthetic? I'm considering switching to synthetic but I don't know much about the various brand out there. What does everyone use? Mobil 1? Royal Purple?
3. Coupons? Deals?
Regarding filters
1. What brand of oil filter should I look at purchasing? Should I buy from the dealership?
2. Who makes the oil filters for Lexus? I read that Denso makes two different kind, one for Lexus/Toyota, and one of a higher quality for their own brand.
3. When changing oil, do you need the oil filter wrench? My previous car was an Acura and I didn't need it, but I haven't done anything with Toyota/Lexus so I don't know.
Thanks
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Regarding oil
1. What brand of dino oil? I just picked up a case Chevron Supreme Dino oil. Anyone has any experience with Chevron oil?
**That is a good oil, but so are the oil offerings from Pennzoil, Valvoline, Castrol, etc. You didn't specify driving conditions, oil change interval, etc; that is important information. Are you trying to extend intervals? A lot of stop-n-go? Will you see weather extremes?
2. What brand of synthetic? I'm considering switching to synthetic but I don't know much about the various brand out there. What does everyone use? Mobil 1? Royal Purple?
**Mobil 1 is an excellent oil. Or you could go for an excellent synthetic at a very good price, Pennzoil Platinum. You can't go wrong with either.
3. Coupons? Deals?
**Pennzoil Platinum at Advance Auto Parts; sometimes offered at a buy 1, get 1 free per quart. Same deal applies to Valvoline Synpower.
Regarding filters
1. What brand of oil filter should I look at purchasing? Should I buy from the dealership?
**If it makes you feel more comfortable, get the part number for the Lexus filter and purchase it at the Toyota dealership. When I used to use them, I would purchase 3 filters for $4 apiece.
I changed over and now use the Mobil 1 EP filter, which is available at AutoZone. I like it because if offers excellent filtration and because I can remove it by hand, which comes in handy on the V6 RX330.
2. Who makes the oil filters for Lexus? I read that Denso makes two different kind, one for Lexus/Toyota, and one of a higher quality for their own brand.
**If memory serves, I think both Denso and Purolator make the Toyota/Lexus OEM filters.
3. When changing oil, do you need the oil filter wrench? My previous car was an Acura and I didn't need it, but I haven't done anything with Toyota/Lexus so I don't know.
**The first oil change, I needed a filter wrench on our 04 RX330, but haven't used one since. As I said above, the Mobil 1 uses a synthetic gasket and will come off without a wrench, which works great for me ... but, YMMV.
1. What brand of dino oil? I just picked up a case Chevron Supreme Dino oil. Anyone has any experience with Chevron oil?
**That is a good oil, but so are the oil offerings from Pennzoil, Valvoline, Castrol, etc. You didn't specify driving conditions, oil change interval, etc; that is important information. Are you trying to extend intervals? A lot of stop-n-go? Will you see weather extremes?
2. What brand of synthetic? I'm considering switching to synthetic but I don't know much about the various brand out there. What does everyone use? Mobil 1? Royal Purple?
**Mobil 1 is an excellent oil. Or you could go for an excellent synthetic at a very good price, Pennzoil Platinum. You can't go wrong with either.
3. Coupons? Deals?
**Pennzoil Platinum at Advance Auto Parts; sometimes offered at a buy 1, get 1 free per quart. Same deal applies to Valvoline Synpower.
Regarding filters
1. What brand of oil filter should I look at purchasing? Should I buy from the dealership?
**If it makes you feel more comfortable, get the part number for the Lexus filter and purchase it at the Toyota dealership. When I used to use them, I would purchase 3 filters for $4 apiece.
I changed over and now use the Mobil 1 EP filter, which is available at AutoZone. I like it because if offers excellent filtration and because I can remove it by hand, which comes in handy on the V6 RX330.
2. Who makes the oil filters for Lexus? I read that Denso makes two different kind, one for Lexus/Toyota, and one of a higher quality for their own brand.
**If memory serves, I think both Denso and Purolator make the Toyota/Lexus OEM filters.
3. When changing oil, do you need the oil filter wrench? My previous car was an Acura and I didn't need it, but I haven't done anything with Toyota/Lexus so I don't know.
**The first oil change, I needed a filter wrench on our 04 RX330, but haven't used one since. As I said above, the Mobil 1 uses a synthetic gasket and will come off without a wrench, which works great for me ... but, YMMV.
#3
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I/we do a lot of highway driving. I think we racked up over 10K miles in the last 6 month and that's with around 300+ miles a week. So quality filtration is a definite requirement.
#4
HWY miles are the easiest on the oil.
On filters, go with K&N or Mobil 1 unless you can get Japan made Toyota OEM. You can buy better filter for the $ paid for the Thailand and US made OEM filters.
I would use dino only if it is free after rebate, for Group III synthetic such as PP I would only pay $1 per quart. I would pay Group IV synthetic such as German Castrol and Mobil 1 SL (not the current SM rated) < $5 per quart. Anything above you are paying too much.
On filters, go with K&N or Mobil 1 unless you can get Japan made Toyota OEM. You can buy better filter for the $ paid for the Thailand and US made OEM filters.
I would use dino only if it is free after rebate, for Group III synthetic such as PP I would only pay $1 per quart. I would pay Group IV synthetic such as German Castrol and Mobil 1 SL (not the current SM rated) < $5 per quart. Anything above you are paying too much.
#5
is there a difference between an OEM oil filter sold at the parts counter of a Lexus dealer and its counterpart sold over at Toyota dealer's parts counter?
What exactly defines filter's ability to be better than others?
What exactly defines filter's ability to be better than others?
#6
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Thread Starter
HWY miles are the easiest on the oil.
On filters, go with K&N or Mobil 1 unless you can get Japan made Toyota OEM. You can buy better filter for the $ paid for the Thailand and US made OEM filters.
I would use dino only if it is free after rebate, for Group III synthetic such as PP I would only pay $1 per quart. I would pay Group IV synthetic such as German Castrol and Mobil 1 SL (not the current SM rated) < $5 per quart. Anything above you are paying too much.
On filters, go with K&N or Mobil 1 unless you can get Japan made Toyota OEM. You can buy better filter for the $ paid for the Thailand and US made OEM filters.
I would use dino only if it is free after rebate, for Group III synthetic such as PP I would only pay $1 per quart. I would pay Group IV synthetic such as German Castrol and Mobil 1 SL (not the current SM rated) < $5 per quart. Anything above you are paying too much.
What's "PP"?
#7
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The difference between the two filters ..... cost. Same part number between the Lexus and Toyota filters (for the V6).
As to what defines an ability to filter, the type of media utilized. Again, I prefer the Mobil 1. It is the exact same filter as the K&N, but $2 cheaper.
Still, you can't go wrong with the OEM Toyota filter.
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Regarding oil
1. What brand of dino oil? I just picked up a case Chevron Supreme Dino oil. Anyone has any experience with Chevron oil?
1. Here is my take on this. The American Petroleum Institute, API, rates oil and if you look in my owner's manuals it states to only us a "fill in the blank" weight of oil (Lexus is 5W-30) meeting API specification of "XX". These API ratings change as new requirements are added by the manufacturer. The API code is on each container of oil. Years ago, I think it was Consumer Reports stated essentially that any oil meeting the current API requirement was ok. That said, I stick with only the major oil companies and specifically Mobil 1 in my cars, although I have no issue with Chevron.
2. What brand of synthetic? I'm considering switching to synthetic but I don't know much about the various brand out there. What does everyone use? Mobil 1? Royal Purple?
See my response to question 1. I use Mobil 1 5W-30 only. I have read good things about Royal Purple but I like Mobil 1.
3. Coupons? Deals?
3. None that I know of.
Regarding filters
1. What brand of oil filter should I look at purchasing? Should I buy from the dealership?
1. NAPA stores sell a great oil filter, imho. It has survived many oil filter analysis with flying colors. I use their premium filter. Another good filter when I can't get to NAPA is Wix. Get them at Advance Auto, Auto Zone, NAPA, etc.
2. Who makes the oil filters for Lexus? I read that Denso makes two different kind, one for Lexus/Toyota, and one of a higher quality for their own brand.
3. When changing oil, do you need the oil filter wrench? My previous car was an Acura and I didn't need it, but I haven't done anything with Toyota/Lexus so I don't know.
I found that the oil filter remover that looks like the end of the filter, with a 3/8" socket hole in it works well. I have used the oil filter "pliers" in the past on other cars but not on the Lexus.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
1. What brand of dino oil? I just picked up a case Chevron Supreme Dino oil. Anyone has any experience with Chevron oil?
1. Here is my take on this. The American Petroleum Institute, API, rates oil and if you look in my owner's manuals it states to only us a "fill in the blank" weight of oil (Lexus is 5W-30) meeting API specification of "XX". These API ratings change as new requirements are added by the manufacturer. The API code is on each container of oil. Years ago, I think it was Consumer Reports stated essentially that any oil meeting the current API requirement was ok. That said, I stick with only the major oil companies and specifically Mobil 1 in my cars, although I have no issue with Chevron.
2. What brand of synthetic? I'm considering switching to synthetic but I don't know much about the various brand out there. What does everyone use? Mobil 1? Royal Purple?
See my response to question 1. I use Mobil 1 5W-30 only. I have read good things about Royal Purple but I like Mobil 1.
3. Coupons? Deals?
3. None that I know of.
Regarding filters
1. What brand of oil filter should I look at purchasing? Should I buy from the dealership?
1. NAPA stores sell a great oil filter, imho. It has survived many oil filter analysis with flying colors. I use their premium filter. Another good filter when I can't get to NAPA is Wix. Get them at Advance Auto, Auto Zone, NAPA, etc.
2. Who makes the oil filters for Lexus? I read that Denso makes two different kind, one for Lexus/Toyota, and one of a higher quality for their own brand.
3. When changing oil, do you need the oil filter wrench? My previous car was an Acura and I didn't need it, but I haven't done anything with Toyota/Lexus so I don't know.
I found that the oil filter remover that looks like the end of the filter, with a 3/8" socket hole in it works well. I have used the oil filter "pliers" in the past on other cars but not on the Lexus.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Napa Gold is an excellent filter, better design with thread end bypass valve, silicon anti drain back valve, and large inlet holes for the same $ as OEM (except those made in Japan).
Passenger Car Motor Oil is ~80% base oil and rest additives. Anytime oil company change the composition, the performance differs. If you check the Virgin Oil Analysis, you will see they are all different. Example and the link
http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru...e=0#Post474179
Oil go on sale periodically at CSK or Autozone. Last time I bought PP was $0.99 after rebate at Kragens, I loaded up 5 cases.
Here is a forum that people post on oil deals.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru...=0&Board=UBB35
Last edited by TunedRX300; 10-03-07 at 07:43 PM.
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I just signed up for oil forum, great site!
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