Air flow stuck in front position
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Once again MASSMINI has provided the correct info. Be careful with the little locking tabs though because they are easy to break and there are several of them. Also, be sure to LUBE the contact strips with a little DIALECTRIC grease after you've cleaned them.
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Thanks, this helped a ton and allowed me to remove the old blower control module. the bolt on the bottom closest to the driver was a little of a pain.
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Well, I am at a standstill now.
I removed the air mode servo, opened it up (will post pictures in a while), cleaned the inside contacts and just hooked it up to the connector for testing (not screwed back).
No luck. The servo does not move at all. No humm, no buzz. WTF.
And By the way, when I run the diagnostic mode, it keeps on going like the energizer bunny. How much time does it take to finish it? I left it on for 10 minutes and it is still flipping through the modes.
The only saving grace is that with the servo removed, the default position of the gate is "feet + defrost". So for the winter I am OK
I removed the air mode servo, opened it up (will post pictures in a while), cleaned the inside contacts and just hooked it up to the connector for testing (not screwed back).
No luck. The servo does not move at all. No humm, no buzz. WTF.
And By the way, when I run the diagnostic mode, it keeps on going like the energizer bunny. How much time does it take to finish it? I left it on for 10 minutes and it is still flipping through the modes.
The only saving grace is that with the servo removed, the default position of the gate is "feet + defrost". So for the winter I am OK
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and yes, in case you wonder how to calibrate the settings, simply plug the servo, but do not screw it in. Then start the car and run it through the modes. The servo will move and stop at the right position corresponding to the mode chosen. Then simply screw the servo in place.
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and yes, in case you wonder how to calibrate the settings, simply plug the servo, but do not screw it in. Then start the car and run it through the modes. The servo will move and stop at the right position corresponding to the mode chosen. Then simply screw the servo in place.
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My golden rule for electronics: 99% of the time it is contacts to blame. Learnt it a long time ago when my first CD player started acting up. Opened it up and tightened the cables that connected to the optical eye. Bingo!
I also trouble shot a multi million dollar 3 axis horizontal CNC machine that the factory tech had trouble. That machine used to jerk while moving on the x axis. He spent 2 days analyzing data. I then walked up to him and told him to clean the contacts of the connector cables that send the signal from the ECU to the servo motors. Voila...He was shocked and impressed, and I made a friend that day!
I also trouble shot a multi million dollar 3 axis horizontal CNC machine that the factory tech had trouble. That machine used to jerk while moving on the x axis. He spent 2 days analyzing data. I then walked up to him and told him to clean the contacts of the connector cables that send the signal from the ECU to the servo motors. Voila...He was shocked and impressed, and I made a friend that day!
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Massmini - I have an 2001 RX300 that is causing the same noises. I have narrowed it down to the Mode Servo (thx to this forum). Do you have pictures of the motor? I want to try to go on the cheap route and just find/replace the motors.
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I got a PM and I am replying here as it may benefit all.
I opened up the recirc servo and based on marking on the motor I searched the web. Visually it is the best match but to confirm I need to have one in hand. There are bumps on the shell of the motor and that must match to be bumps in the shell of the servo.
The motor comes in a 3v version and for RX it should be 12v (that info is imbedded in the part number I posted).
Please keep in mind, this is a hunch and not a guaranteed replacement.
Salim
I opened up the recirc servo and based on marking on the motor I searched the web. Visually it is the best match but to confirm I need to have one in hand. There are bumps on the shell of the motor and that must match to be bumps in the shell of the servo.
The motor comes in a 3v version and for RX it should be 12v (that info is imbedded in the part number I posted).
Please keep in mind, this is a hunch and not a guaranteed replacement.
Salim
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Hi - can you please take some photos of the entire motor showing the terminals, markings, etc.? I really think these cheap motors just weaken over time and don't have enough force to move the gears and the arms that open/close the vents, modes, etc. The issue is just finding these motors...any motor idendification everyone on this forum can provide can assist locating these things. Thx!
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mindful...great post!
I believe I found a better way to fix this vs. using glue. I was concerned glue would not hold on the polished shaft.
All that needs to be done is to move the brass collar up a little bit on the shaft to close the gap. I used a hobby gear puller (had this to fix my door lock actuators) to move it to the position needed. Now the worm gear set properly on the brass collar with little movement between the servo case and the motor.
For now, it appears this may have worked (without having to buy extra servos). I will post an update later to confirm this indeed fixes the problem
I believe I found a better way to fix this vs. using glue. I was concerned glue would not hold on the polished shaft.
All that needs to be done is to move the brass collar up a little bit on the shaft to close the gap. I used a hobby gear puller (had this to fix my door lock actuators) to move it to the position needed. Now the worm gear set properly on the brass collar with little movement between the servo case and the motor.
For now, it appears this may have worked (without having to buy extra servos). I will post an update later to confirm this indeed fixes the problem
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Thanks for the information
I tried your solution but had no glue so prying with a screwdriver, slid the post out of the motor just enough to get the worm gear close to the edge of the housing.
Works great, m wife had called the shop yesterday and they quotes 9 hours of work and $700. My son and I did this in less than 3 hours.
Thanks and really appreciate this form.
Works great, m wife had called the shop yesterday and they quotes 9 hours of work and $700. My son and I did this in less than 3 hours.
Thanks and really appreciate this form.
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